Portrait Artist Forum    

Go Back   Portrait Artist Forum > Photographing Your Artwork
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search


Reply
 
Topic Tools Search this Topic Display Modes
Old 10-16-2007, 08:32 PM   #1
Enzie Shahmiri Enzie Shahmiri is offline
Associate Member
SoCal-ASOPA Founder
FT Professional
 
Enzie Shahmiri's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Location: Laguna Hills, CA
Posts: 1,395
Using a Polarizer Filter




I have had nothing but trouble getting decent photos of my paintings and have been reading and rereading the post until I finally got a photo of my painting that does not need adjustments in Photoshop and looks exactly as the painting does.

I had to share the difference with you, because seeing is believing.

Image 1 (the one that has skin tones the color of a ghost)
is shot without a polarizer this morning around 10am.

Image 2 which has colors exactly as the painting was shot under direct sunlight, using a Canon Rebel EOS Digital Camera with a circular polarizer.
Attached Images
   
__________________
Enzie Shahmiri
Professional Portrait Artist
Founder of Southern California Society of Portrait Artists
Portfolio
Facebook
World Market Portraits Blog

Last edited by Enzie Shahmiri; 10-17-2007 at 02:35 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2007, 10:46 PM   #2
Debra Norton Debra Norton is offline
Associate Member
 
Debra Norton's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Location: Montesano, Washington
Posts: 236
An amazing difference Enzie! Thanks for sharing that.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2007, 02:36 PM   #3
Enzie Shahmiri Enzie Shahmiri is offline
Associate Member
SoCal-ASOPA Founder
FT Professional
 
Enzie Shahmiri's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Location: Laguna Hills, CA
Posts: 1,395
You are welcome Debra!
__________________
Enzie Shahmiri
Professional Portrait Artist
Founder of Southern California Society of Portrait Artists
Portfolio
Facebook
World Market Portraits Blog
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2007, 07:26 PM   #4
Michele Rushworth Michele Rushworth is offline
CAFE & BUSINESS MODERATOR
SOG Member
FT Professional
 
Michele Rushworth's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 3,460
The improvement in color in the second photo is probably due to having the correct white balance setting for the lighting situation you were in. Polarizers only remove glare and don't correct for color.

The first photo looks like you had an incorrect white balance setting. Blue skintones like that can occur if your white balance is set for sunlight but you're outdoors in the shade, for example. Keeping the white balance setting the same but moving the painting into full sun might be what gave you the warmer colors in the second shot.
__________________
Michele Rushworth
www.michelerushworth.com
[email protected]
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2007, 08:21 PM   #5
Enzie Shahmiri Enzie Shahmiri is offline
Associate Member
SoCal-ASOPA Founder
FT Professional
 
Enzie Shahmiri's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Location: Laguna Hills, CA
Posts: 1,395
Hi Michelle,

Than can definitely be it as well. The white balance setting was not changed, but the amount of sun on the 2nd painting was definitely more. I am just happy that the photo of the painting actually looks like the real image, without tons of back and forth in photoshop.

I found a link that explains the two main functions of polarizer lenses with examples of before and after pictures at Cord Camera
__________________
Enzie Shahmiri
Professional Portrait Artist
Founder of Southern California Society of Portrait Artists
Portfolio
Facebook
World Market Portraits Blog
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2007, 02:19 PM   #6
Jeff Morrow Jeff Morrow is offline
SOG Member
 
Jeff Morrow's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Location: Dayton OH
Posts: 10
Here's how I shoot my paintings. This may sound rather involved, but if you have the equipment, it works beautifully. I photograph with studio strobe lights wich give me accurate daylight color balance and give out a nice strong light. I polarize both the lights and the camera. I have attached a low tech overhead view illustration of my set-up. On the next post I will attach photos of an unfinished painting showing with and without polarization.

1. Set up your camera on a tripod so that the lens is as high as the center of the canvas and square with the canvas.

2. Set up lights so they are as high as the center of the canvas and aimed at the canvas at less than a 45% angle.

3. Keep lights back far enough so that the canvas receives even illumination.

4. Place a sheet each of polarizing material over both lights. See photo of light with polarizing material hanging in front of it. Make sure the sheets are hanging in the same direction (polarizing the light the same way). I bought my sheets of polarizers online at B&H Photo in NY. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...0_Filter_.html

5. Check with a light meter that illumination of canvas is even corner to corner. Use the incident setting on your light meter. That is, the setting that measures the light that is falling on the canvas
Attached Images
   
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2007, 02:26 PM   #7
Jeff Morrow Jeff Morrow is offline
SOG Member
 
Jeff Morrow's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Location: Dayton OH
Posts: 10
Here's photos of an unfinished portrait with and without the light polarized. Sorry I could not get my photo of the lens filter to upload for the previous post.
Attached Images
   
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2007, 04:22 PM   #8
Enzie Shahmiri Enzie Shahmiri is offline
Associate Member
SoCal-ASOPA Founder
FT Professional
 
Enzie Shahmiri's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Location: Laguna Hills, CA
Posts: 1,395
Thank you so much for posting these, Jeff. I am going to try your set up indoors and compare it with the results thus far. Thanks again for the images!
__________________
Enzie Shahmiri
Professional Portrait Artist
Founder of Southern California Society of Portrait Artists
Portfolio
Facebook
World Market Portraits Blog
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2009, 02:14 PM   #9
Tom Edgerton Tom Edgerton is offline
SOG Member
'02 Finalist, PSA
'01 Merit Award, PSA
'99 Finalist, PSA
 
Tom Edgerton's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Location: Greensboro, NC
Posts: 819
A polarizing filter is definitely the way to go. My photographer and I could never get decent shadow detail until we started using it. If it contributes any contrast to the result, I can compensate in Photoshop.
__________________
TomEdgerton.com
"The dream drives the action."
--Thomas Berry, 1999
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing this Topic: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

 

Make a Donation



Support the Forum by making a donation or ordering on Amazon through our search or book links..







All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.