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12-23-2008, 11:36 AM
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I second the reference to the kneaded eraser. Also, use a sandpaper block to taper your charcoal to a point. Both that point, and the kneaded eraser also rolled down to a point, are useful in getting a more uniform tone and quality laid down on the tooth of the paper.
I'd begin by taking the eraser, fashioning it into a point, and carefully lifting out (dabbing at, not rubbing) the darkest darks in those shadow areas. After just a few dabs (or even one or two), roll another point to continue -- otherwise you'll just be smearing the old charcoal around. Then use the point of the charcoal to fill in between the areas in which the tooth has grabbed the charcoal. Dab and fill, push and pull, to even out your tone and the gradations between value areas, working in small areas with patience, mindful of how each small area fits into the overall value design. It sounds tedious but it provides great control, it comes together quickly and the results are very satisfying, especially on a subject such as this one, where delicate and subtle effects are in order.
Oil from your fingers is always a problem. Wash hands often and try to resist blending with your fingertips. This, admittedly, is advice I am incapable of following sometimes -- but I try to reserve that blending fingertip stroke to a final swoosh or effect, one that I've decided I will accept and not try to amend after I've done it, because laying down charcoal or graphite with the fingers is like adding a kind of fixative at the same time.
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12-24-2008, 02:14 AM
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Steven, Claudemir, Patricia and Alexandra,
Thank you, thank you for your critiques and advice for me. While I was working on this final sketch, your words kept running through my mind... don't make the hand too obnoxious, think of the arm as a cylinder first, an arm second, join the shadow areas, use the kneaded eraser, it's going to be tedious...etc. All those bits and pieces of advice have really helped me push beyond where I have gone before with charcoal. I really like my drawing, but I am not loving the photo of it. This photo fails to capture the most subtle, soft places that I like the most.
I would appreciate any further critiques of this piece.
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12-24-2008, 12:40 PM
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At this point it does become a bit more difficult to critique, because as you've noted, photographing a drawing is a challenge -- values get clumped together, transitions between value areas seem more jarring, and subtle effects are lost.
That said, the photograph can still be instructive. You have to trust your own eye, and not the thrice-removed photo (of the drawing, which is of a photo, which is of the real subject), but if the photo raises a question, it can be useful to answer it.
So these are a few of those sorts of questions:
-- On the shadow side of the hand, the side closest to us, the dark value may be a bit too dark, and the reflected light band below that dark value is probably too light. Putting in reflected light in too light a value is a temptation commonly given in to, but it almost always creates an overmodeled look. The remedy is to squint at the resource for a more accurate reading -- the reflected lights that seem bright when you stare into them pretty much disappear when you squint. The latter is closer to what you want. In this same vein, and since I've just realized there's a reference photo available, I would think about whether the reflected light on the shadow side of the head is a bit too high in value. Same issue, the value of the upper eyelid on the shadow side of the face. Squint at your subject or resource, for a truer reading of the relative values.
-- Until I looked at the reference photo, I thought the line across the wrist was the hem of the sleeve. If you squint at the reference photo, the value of the flesh on the arm and the hand aren't really as different as they appear in the drawing. The bulge of the flesh near where the wrist area touches the lip is perhaps a little too large and too dark. And though it seems that that crease in the flesh goes all the way across the top of the wrist area, the next reference photo you posted in the other thread does show that there's a break in that crease. If you lift out the dark in just a bit of that area and let the light flow across the form, the hand will better connect up with the forearm.
-- The shadow area on the forehead looks much better but might still be improved if the darkest bits of it were lightened, so as to make the value transition as "baby skin smooth" as possible. Just dab lightly at those darkest bits with the point of the kneaded eraser.
-- The spot of reflected light on the surface of the eye on the shadow side of the face is a bit too light. That side of the face is, after all, in shadow, and so that eye isn't receiving the same amount of light as the other. Forcing the brighter reflected "catchlight" into that shadow area is messing with the illusion of form that you're trying to create.
-- The light value on top of the head, on the lighted side with the bow, might profitably be toned down just a bit, at least with a few suggestions of hair.
My point isn't to put a microscope to either the reference or the drawing, but it's tricky to use a written medium to "point" to areas of a visual work. In fact, in keeping with the advice about squinting, the best use of a microscope would be to keep it slightly out of focus. That would prevent that "looking into" value areas too hard and exaggerating them, whether darks or lights.
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12-24-2008, 06:31 PM
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Steven, thanks for your thoughtful post. I read it several times before picking up my pencil (or my eraser). Attached is the drawing with the slight tweeks I made in response to your critique. I believe I addressed every point you made, however subtle it was. I hope that the photo of this very delicate drawing will show it off well, but I don't think it really does. I wonder if you'll even be able to see the changes I made....Regardless, the drawing itself has improved. Thank you!
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12-24-2008, 08:10 PM
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It's very nicely done and sweet. Well done. The challenges and vagaries of representing artwork on the internet counsel little additional observation.
There are three dark-valued linear shapes across the top of the forehead shadow that I'd still lighten up a bit more. In another drawing, maybe not -- but I'm trying to remember a couple decades back to the feel of an infant's skin. (Those infants are teaching high school English now, or aboard a merchant ship on the Pacific tonight.) On the catchlights in the eyes, I'd reduce the size of the one in the eye on our right (the lighted side of the face) and still take the value of the other one down by at least half.
The pressure of the hand against the mouth is slightly distorting the filtrum, or philtrum (that valley that runs vertically from the center of the base of the nose to the center of the top lip.) I realize that you've been faithful to the reference photo, but I think you could take artistic license and very (very) slightly represent that feature. The slight distortion rather suggests a kind of beak'ed lip, which is what the particular reference photo presents, but we artists are Kings and Queens of the world, so we can fudge things.
What a cool gift this will be. A true Gerber baby.
Had to work today, home late, fun to play with art on Christmas Eve, after the dogs have played in the wintry offering. Cold and tons of snow here in Minnesota, and work on the snowblower tomorrow morning. But I saw a print of Monet's "The Magpie" late this evening, and I was glad to be a northerner. How observant, that blue shadow on snow. (I know you're in Wyoming -- I'm a native Montanan, so I enjoy seeing your Wyoming and Yellowstone works on your site.)
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12-25-2008, 10:45 AM
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P.S. I've just noticed the addition to your website . . . looks great! To have managed well a subject of delicacy bodes well for your future drawings.
Start another soon, to take advantage of your newfound or resurgent interest in drawing. The materials handling can't really be explained, it has to develop under your own hand and eye, so do many drawings of many subjects.
I used to do a little mechanical drawing and, so, the exploded parts drawing in front of me now, from the repair manual for my snowblower, has its own fascination for me, but the 2-below start to the day's weather doesn't. I'd rather be sketching some indoor subject. (In The Practice & Science of Drawing, Harold Speed refers to "the long uphill road that separates mechanically accurate drawing from artistically accurate drawing." I cannot recommend too highly the close study of Speed's book. Though my copy is heavily highlighted and notated, it's probably time for me to take it up again.)
One of the most common remarks I hear from good painters is that they know they should be doing more sketching and drawing. It's difficult for paint to cover up a poor drawing, but a good draftsperson at work is evident in all the better paintings. (In Speed's Oil Painting Techniques and Materials, he writes, "It cannot be too much insisted upon that painting is drawing (form expression) with the added complication of tone and colour.")
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12-25-2008, 02:02 PM
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Steven,
Your posts are so thoughtful and exciting to read. I suppose it is also worth mentioning that they are helpful, as well.
I finally get it - the baby skin smooth forehead you kept mentioning. Again, I have touched my paper at all points you noted. I feel that this piece has arrived, and as you suggest, I plan to transition directly into another drawing.
Today is Christmas and my husband's gift to me is a drawing technique book. He says the reviews all mention "you have to be good already to use this book." Thanks, Ryan! Merry Christmas.
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