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Old 11-24-2008, 11:11 AM   #1
Carol Norton Carol Norton is offline
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Great Idea!!!




Thanks for the very helpful contract, Amanda. This certainly would clarify most/all issues that could be addressed in events like these. Whether people read contracts or not, is another issue, but at least the artist has clearly spelled out what is expected and that certainly should solve most problems.
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Old 11-24-2008, 12:46 PM   #2
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I've done a lot of charity auctions and here's what I've found:

The best ones are the expensive ones (definitely not the $50 church dinners,)

The best ones also have lots of artists and other donors competing to get in, and they turn plenty of donors away.

Being in the live auction is better than the silent auction.

Setting a solid minimum bid is a good idea and you're right that it unfortunately devalues your reputation if the item sells for much less than that. Did lots of items go for less than the price at which the auctioneer opened the bidding? These are hard times and people understand that.

Once the auction gets underway a lot of promises go by the wayside: whether you'll get in the live or silent auction, what table you'll be at, minimum bids, etc.

Even with all of that certain very high end auctions are still worth it for the advertising.

If I were you I would talk to the auction organizers/auctioneer about what happened and see if you can come up with a workable plan for next year. I'm not sure a written contract would make much difference though. If they broke it and you made a fuss, you certainly wouldn't be allowed to donate the next year. If this is the best auction in town you might not want to burn that bridge.

With auctions I think it's pretty much pick the best ones and then take your chances.
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Old 11-24-2008, 01:29 PM   #3
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Michelle,

Yes, I think most of the items went below the minimum bid during the live auction portion but I was bothered by the fact that it was SO far off from the original value. I emailed the woman in charge to explain that I was a bit upset that the minimum bid had been disregarded and explained that I was happy to help the organization but I viewed this as advertising opportunity in exchange and devaluing my service doesn't help. You are absolutely right, you can not burn bridges which is why I was careful with my wording. However, whether I decide to work with them again will depend on their response. I hadn't considered what I would do if the contract wasn't followed (thus burning a bridge if they don't comply and I refuse the portrait). But that certainly is a fine line as to when you are "flexible" and when you are a "doormat". Fortunately there do seem to be quite a few auctions in my area but I am not sure how many are considered "high end" yet since I haven't been at this for a full year. Thanks for sharing your experiences, Michelle. It is good information to hear that even experienced portrait artists still confront these issues.



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Old 11-24-2008, 01:42 PM   #4
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The auctioneer is a big part of it. I have been at auctions where they would not feed people until the bids came in. A good auctioneer will work the room and name names and TELL people to bid.
I DON'T believe you are obliged to do it, the auctioneer should have known to say, NO SALE if the bid did not come in.

One of my first requirement of doing anything for charity is to PLUG MY EARS and never look at the bids. I do only certificates for small paintings and some never come back... some have bidding wars! It all is dependent on the mood of the group and MY salesmanship.

As a participant in the auction part, I am there to pass out information and recruit. The two live auctions I did participate in BOTH had me there as a participant, either photographing (these were pet charities) the potential clients and/or working on a different piece in progress. That let them KNOW what I would do and how it would be done. Because one was a pet rescue with a lot of active patrons and the other was a specialty dog group the auction was run by a very vocal well known MEMBER of the charity. I was actually amazed that the pricing went so high!

BUT... I would do the piece for whatever I got if I believed in the charity. IF you have a minimum bid, the charity is the one responsible for getting you that price. PERHAPS you could have the charity call the winner and explain that their error was not your problem and offer to do a smaller piece or perhaps a charcoal for the price.
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Old 11-24-2008, 02:29 PM   #5
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I too, participate in auctions, a handful a year, and always get some business from it. This week I have been searching for some new, more upscale auctions and don't know where to begin. Can anyone suggest how to find the high end auctions in the Cleveland or Ohio region?

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Old 11-24-2008, 02:52 PM   #6
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Contact the most expensive private schools in your area and ask if they have an auction.
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Old 11-24-2008, 03:16 PM   #7
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One of my first requirement of doing anything for charity is to PLUG MY EARS and never look at the bids....Debra
I had to laugh at that because I don't know where I "go" but something makes me tune out as people are bidding and I end up turning to my husband and asking, "what happened, what was the final bid?"
I also have not been contacted by the winner from the first auction I did. Thank you for your thoughts, Debra. And you certainly do have to be a salesman and very social for this job, don't you?
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