New technology releases

Julie Deane · 08-31-2006, 06:46 PM

HI Mike -

Thanks for the info. I've been doing a lot of research and have finally ordered my first digital SLR today. I went for the Sony DSLR A100 and I can hardly wait to try it out!

One deciding factor for me was the anti-shake factor. My lower end digital cameras have that feature: it makes all the difference when I'm trying to photograph a child because I don't have to necessarily keep the camera on the tripod for my shots.

It also has a better range lens (18-70 mm) than many kit lens, AND the price is within my reach

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Once I get a chance to try it out, I hope to report back.

Mike McCarty · 08-31-2006, 07:24 PM

Well Julie, that Sony does sound like a real fine camera. I'll be interested in seeing some of your efforts. You may be the first on our block to post an image from a 10 mp camera.

Things seem to be changing pretty rapidly and as usual whatever you decide on will soon be obsolete. However, I think a camera like yours could serve you well for a very long time. After you get to this level of technology and sophistication it will be pretty hard to make really meaningful advances. At least to the point that you would want to ditch your Sony and make another camera purchase for the additional image quality.

Julie Deane · 08-31-2006, 09:30 PM

I'm hoping this camera will last me a good LONG time.

Garth Herrick · 09-08-2006, 07:36 PM

Dear Mike, and all,

Sheesh, all this cutting edge camera talk has made me succumb to my worst weaknesses! Last night I went out and picked up a Nikon D200. I am still evaluating whether it was a purposeful purchase or not; but the test results look pretty promising so far.

It's one of the 10.2 megapixel generation of DSLR cameras out now. With a generously sized magnesium body, it's pretty hefty (much more than my D100), and with it's ergonomics, no-nonsense controls and finish, it screams "professional" at you. The new D80 is a lightweight plastic bodied version, smaller and more consumer friendly at a better price; however I preferred the more professional feel and customizable functionality of the D200. The D80 feels too slight to me; I know that's highly subjective, as the picture quality has got to be very similar if not the same.

In some respects, I have a renewed appreciation for my old D100 (which just turns four this weekend). It is so much simpler in scope of functionality, however, due to that it is difficult to come up with the finely nuanced results the new D200 can acheive. One apparent surprise: images compress better for the web with the new camera. I suppose the images being less grainy and cleaner, account for that.

I have been attempting to compare apples to apples with test picture comparisons between the two cameras. It might be better to just write that the D200 has better rendering of color, with four years of evolution on its side.

This afternoon, I shot a picture of Lesser Apotheoun, and got the best results ever. To me the photo looks just like the painting. The head detail is from the same shot. I did adjust it very slightly in Photoshop, but I was mostly splitting hairs on some imperceptable nuances. These images are subtle, like the painting.

Edit: It's a bit more murky in the darks, in these images (back to the drawing room).

Yikes, this camera may completely undo my marriage!

Julie: Did you get your camera yet???? Your brand new Sony has got to be very comparable to the D200. Send us a picture!

Another edit: I just lightened the images slightly.....

Garth

Mike McCarty · 09-08-2006, 08:43 PM

Quote:

You may be the first on our block to post an image from a 10 mp camera.

Well Julie, Garth beat you to it.

Garth,

I just noticed your previous post regarding the Sigma. I've since read those same comments. It may be that those 14 mp's will actually be spit by a 1/3 as you suggest. It does, however, seem like they have had several years to best their previous efforts by more than just that. The anticipation is for something more than the 1/3's which would be a let down for most I think.

If they do bring out a 14 mp with each carrying the possibility of one of three colors (effectively multiplied by three) then that would really be something to see. We'll know in just a few more days. It won't matter much to me either way, I'm locked in for several more years with my D70. Not a terrible place to be.

That must be one fine camera that you've got your hands on. The eye can only perceive so much goodness, I wonder how much farther down the pixel road we can go before the difference becomes imperceptible.

Garth Herrick · 09-08-2006, 08:58 PM

Mike,

(Yes, Julie should have been first; sorry!)

I was probably a bit too harsh in my Sigma comments above. The Sigma SD10 makes respectable images, and has certainly better resolving power of test patterns and fine lines, at least compared to my 6 megapixel D100 in an online Dpreview analysis. I'll shut-up!

Garth

Garth Herrick · 09-08-2006, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike McCarty

That must be one fine camera that you've got your hands on. The eye can only perceive so much goodness, I wonder how much farther down the pixel road we can go before the difference becomes imperceptible.

This is what I am trying to evaluate for myself. The difference can be just marginal from 6 megapixels to 10. To me the images appear significanly cleaner, with better color distinction and definition. But I am still thinking about this. Your D70 is still a marvelous camera by comparison; and for about the same result, your camera only uses a fraction of the file size. I bet consumer and light duty professional cameras top out at ten megapixels for some time to come: It's really plenty to work with.

D100 on top,
D200 below:

The color is certainly different.

Garth

Garth Herrick · 09-08-2006, 10:08 PM

As near as is possible, here is a side by side comparison of the Nikon D100 and it's replacement, the D200:

I took these test shots and details in a halogen light. Same settings throughout between the cameras:

f/3.5
ISO 200
1/40 second shutter
Adobe 1998 color space
neutral "incandescent" white-balance preset.

same lens/ focal setting setting (24mm)
tripod
media card

I scaled up the D100 image to the same file size for comparison. The two crop details are at the D200's 100% therefore.

The D100 is inherently more conservative and greenish in it's color rendering in this white balance setting compared to the D200.

So, which is better?

again (age before beauty)
D100 top.
D200 bottom.

Garth