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06-13-2005, 05:26 PM
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Michele,
What DO they mean by direct contact? Paintings only from life or from your own photos?
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06-13-2005, 05:44 PM
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They were very quick at answering my emailed question so you might want to ask them.
My interpretation of that rule is that they don't want anyone doing a portrait of, say, George Bush, if they never met him. It doesn't have to be a commission, it just has to be something the artist didn't do from someone else's photos. At least that's what I think they mean.
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06-13-2005, 05:50 PM
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Thanks Michele,
I just emailed them about it. Most of the Time magazine covers for instance are from news photographers photos that are given to the artist.
The artist in that case has no contact with the subject.
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06-14-2005, 11:46 AM
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Michele,
You are right about quick replies from the Smithsonian.
Direct contact means you can paint from photos as long as you have had direct contact with the subject. It cannot be a hired model for simply a figurative that does not end up being a portrait of the subject.
In other words, it has to be a portrait resembling the subject, painted from your own reference. It can be commissioned or not.
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06-14-2005, 03:43 PM
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Sharon,
So - if it is clearly a figurative it can't be entered? In other words - it has to look like a portrait even if it was a hired model? But, it can be a hired model?
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06-14-2005, 04:06 PM
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Kim,
As far as I know it CAN be a hired model, but the painting has to be clearly a portrait. In other words, the painting should not be a figurative with the emphasis on the pictorial aspects mainly.
Sargent did a fanciful painting of one of the Wertheimer daughters in a harem costume, but it is clearly mainly a portrait of her.
His figurative boating scenes are another story, even though the figures are recognizable people, it is still a scene with people in it, and therefore would NOT be eligible.His painting of the writer Henry Louis Stevenson, thoough odd is still a portrait, that effectively and tellingly emphasizes his frail physique.
Many portrait artists, myself included, hire models to start their portfolios and also because the model appeals to them.
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06-14-2005, 04:11 PM
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I think you might want to ask them how they would make the determination between what was a portrait and what was figurative.
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06-14-2005, 04:49 PM
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Here is a quote from the FAQ section on the NPG site:
"How do you define
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11-04-2009, 05:00 PM
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Too late to enter, but I did enjoy voting for the serious portraits!
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06-14-2005, 07:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharon Knettell
Direct contact means you can paint from photos as long as you have had direct contact with the subject. .
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Can't we just prod them with a mahlsick?
Sorry. I couldn't resist.
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