About Talent...

John Reidy · 04-01-2005, 10:41 AM

Kimber, I agree and I think you expressed your thoughts superbly.

For me, talent means a natural tendency for some thing, act or thought process. In no way do I consider it the most important criteria for a masterpiece.

A masterpiece as I understand it, is a piece of work that requires no more or no less work. It is the best as it is.

I have seen many masterpieces on this website. I am looking forward to meeting as many masters and future masters as I can this May and hope that I get the oppportunity to glean as much as I can from each of you.

Until then I will paint for paint's sake.

Claudemir Bonfim · 04-01-2005, 11:55 AM

Well, I think I've been misunderstood...
I never intended to say that I think it is easy to make a masterpiece.

If it was so, I would be a Master, but I'm a poor, simple student.

But it seems to me that some artists are not worried about what people think about their art, once I heard Manabu Mabi ( a brazilian painter whose works reached about $100.000 during his life !!!) saying that he just painted what he wanted and set a price, he didn

Claudemir Bonfim · 04-01-2005, 11:56 AM

The image above is from the Guinness Worl Records website.

Kimber Scott · 04-04-2005, 02:38 AM

[QUOTE=Claudemir Bonfim]Well, I think I've been misunderstood...
I never intended to say that I think it is easy to make a masterpiece.

If it was so, I would be a Master, but I'm a poor, simple student.

But it seems to me that some artists are not worried about what people think about their art, once I heard Manabu Mabi ( a brazilian painter whose works reached about $100.000 during his life !!!) saying that he just painted what he wanted and set a price, he didn

Claudemir Bonfim · 04-04-2005, 04:09 PM

Thanks for that Kimber.

I haven't painted anything like "Lady Agnew" or "Madame X", but fortunately I've been a little successful in selling my Art.

You reminded me of Van Gogh, he wasn

John Reidy · 04-04-2005, 05:14 PM

I want to be careful. I do not want to create any arguements but I disagree with the philosophy of talent being related to the "urge" or "need" to perform a particular thing. As evidence I offer the idea of all the people who show talent at a particular function but let it fallow.

Maybe I don't understand what talent is but I profess that it is the least important factor in becoming proficient at a task. The urge, constant work and a quest for improvement of oneself are the articals of success. Then comes talent.

I beg your forgiveness if I have offended anyone but that's just the way I see it.

Claudemir Bonfim · 04-04-2005, 10:27 PM

I don't think you will ever offend anyone John,
I understand what you say and I'm sure everyone here respects your opinion.
I still would like to continue reading all sorts of opinions from the forum members, that's why I started this post.

Have a great time painting.

Claudemir Bonfim · 04-06-2005, 11:32 AM

I found this the other day.

by Kathie Sorensen and Steve Crabtree - The Gallup Organization. October 2, 2000

The concept of talent is elusive -- it lacks substance, specificity. Perhaps that's part of the reason so many people have trouble applying it to themselves. Carefully examining and refining the concept of talent may make it easier for you to recognize it in yourself and others, in order to make the most of it in your daily life. Knowledge and skills can be learned, but talent is enduring.

I would like someone to help me figure it out.