About Talent...

Garth Herrick · 03-31-2005, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by David Draime

Kimber,

I think your "theories" are spot on - and beautifully put. I'm going to print them out and hang it in my studio to read every day.

Thanks for sharing!

Supreme words of wisdom, Kimber. You are just what the doctor ordered!

Claudemir, I sure am hoping to meet someone who can reveal the elusive secret to talent and the easy masterpiece. I sure hope to not be disillusioned.

Garth

Chris Saper · 04-01-2005, 12:34 AM

Yes, I agree!

I recall taking a class with Harley Brown, who said something to the effect that talent is about 15 % of the equation. All the rest is solid training and countless hours of hard work.

Not unlike writing, music, acting, voice...

Michele Rushworth · 04-01-2005, 10:31 AM

I actually feel that the idea of inborn "talent" has pretty much nothing to do with art success. (I don't think I was born with any!) If you can see and hold a brush, you have all the talent you need to become a good painter. The rest is persistence, practice, patience, etc., and you need those in very large measures.

John Reidy · 04-01-2005, 10:41 AM

Kimber, I agree and I think you expressed your thoughts superbly.

For me, talent means a natural tendency for some thing, act or thought process. In no way do I consider it the most important criteria for a masterpiece.

A masterpiece as I understand it, is a piece of work that requires no more or no less work. It is the best as it is.

I have seen many masterpieces on this website. I am looking forward to meeting as many masters and future masters as I can this May and hope that I get the oppportunity to glean as much as I can from each of you.

Until then I will paint for paint's sake.

Claudemir Bonfim · 04-01-2005, 11:55 AM

Well, I think I've been misunderstood...
I never intended to say that I think it is easy to make a masterpiece.

If it was so, I would be a Master, but I'm a poor, simple student.

But it seems to me that some artists are not worried about what people think about their art, once I heard Manabu Mabi ( a brazilian painter whose works reached about $100.000 during his life !!!) saying that he just painted what he wanted and set a price, he didn

Claudemir Bonfim · 04-01-2005, 11:56 AM

The image above is from the Guinness Worl Records website.

Kimber Scott · 04-04-2005, 02:38 AM

[QUOTE=Claudemir Bonfim]Well, I think I've been misunderstood...
I never intended to say that I think it is easy to make a masterpiece.

If it was so, I would be a Master, but I'm a poor, simple student.

But it seems to me that some artists are not worried about what people think about their art, once I heard Manabu Mabi ( a brazilian painter whose works reached about $100.000 during his life !!!) saying that he just painted what he wanted and set a price, he didn

Claudemir Bonfim · 04-04-2005, 04:09 PM

Thanks for that Kimber.

I haven't painted anything like "Lady Agnew" or "Madame X", but fortunately I've been a little successful in selling my Art.

You reminded me of Van Gogh, he wasn

John Reidy · 04-04-2005, 05:14 PM

I want to be careful. I do not want to create any arguements but I disagree with the philosophy of talent being related to the "urge" or "need" to perform a particular thing. As evidence I offer the idea of all the people who show talent at a particular function but let it fallow.

Maybe I don't understand what talent is but I profess that it is the least important factor in becoming proficient at a task. The urge, constant work and a quest for improvement of oneself are the articals of success. Then comes talent.

I beg your forgiveness if I have offended anyone but that's just the way I see it.

Claudemir Bonfim · 04-01-2005, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Saper

Yes, I agree!

I recall taking a class with Harley Brown, who said something to the effect that talent is about 15 % of the equation. All the rest is solid training and countless hours of hard work.

Not unlike writing, music, acting, voice...

This reminds me of Caruso, when he was first evaluated by a teacher, he was told to look for another activity, because he didn't have talent to sing...
That was said to one of the greatest (if not the greatest ) Tenor in the world.

So, 10% of inspiration and 90 of transpiration.