Smudging pencil - Page 3

Karin Wells · 05-16-2002, 10:57 AM

I gather that this may be an example of Prud'hon's work before he got around to the smudgy stuff...

Juan Martinez · 05-16-2002, 04:36 PM

Karin

Thanks for posting those excellent reproductions of Prud'hon's work. I am quite familiar with many of his pictures, even having seen a few in real life and done a couple of copies. However, that unfinished one you posted is fantastic as a resource. Wherever did you find it? I've seen only some of his that were unfinished, and that was only in parts rather than the whole. Very instructive. Thanks.

Juan

Karin Wells · 05-16-2002, 05:22 PM

Walk around these pages...someone has done a lot of work on Prud'hon here: http://www.art.net/~rebecca/OnPrudon1a.html

Mike McCarty · 05-16-2002, 09:58 PM

Wow, Karin that was an impressive site you posted. I especially enjoyed the page on portraiture.

http://www.art.net/~rebecca/NewImages/AAarticle1.html

Virginia Branch · 05-17-2002, 09:37 AM

Peggy,

I love your sauce paintings and charcoals too! I really admire your work.

If I were to go to the art store, exactly what would I ask for to create a sauce painting? Do you enjoy doing these vs. charcoal?

So much to paint and so little time!

Peggy Baumgaertner · 05-17-2002, 06:07 PM

I am in Mexico at an internet cafe, strange computer, and no spell check, so please humor me...

Sauce is sauce. This is the name of the product. This is made by the Russian company, Yarka, distributed in the US by Jack Richeson and Co., and is available through several of the catalogs. (I think Dick Blick might have it.) Cynthia, maybe you can find the web site of Richeson, or the telephone number or e-mail address. He can help you to find it. On how to use it, I just had published in International Artist Magazine, April/May, 2002, an article on how to use it. Maybe Cynthia or someone could help me out here too as to where to get the magazine. This is all an easy fix for me to get if I were home.

Sauce is different and similar to charcoal. I am using it more than charcoal, and can see where it would be tempting to replace my charcoal studies with it.

Thanks all.

Peggy

Cynthia Daniel · 05-18-2002, 09:03 AM

Here is the Jack Richeson web site: http://www.richesonart.com

Juan Martinez · 05-18-2002, 09:25 AM

Sorry folks. This is a test. No need to respond.

Juan Martinez · 05-18-2002, 09:30 AM

Hey, my upload worked! This is the jpeg I intended to go with my post on page 2 of this thread. If anyone is still interested, please refer to that post.

It seems that the browser I was using; IE 5.1 for the Mac, does not include file pathways for attachments. This is too bad, because Stroke of Genius loads much more slowly on Netscape than in Internet Explorer.

For other Mac users: I actually used Omniweb rather than IE or Netscape. It works beautifully well in OS X.

Thanks to Jim and Cynthia for the earlier tips.

Juan

Lon Haverly · 05-20-2002, 02:18 PM

I will remember this reference next time I am commissioned to draw some naked guys and their penises!

I respect the stylized renderings of this master. If an artist is working for his own enjoyment, it works. Portrait artists usually work for a customer, not for themselves, as this type of drawing would likely have been. In my pompous opinion, I doubt if this style would work well in most commissioned portraiture, however, since most customers (at least mine) do not want too much stylization and too much impressionism in line work and technique such as in the final post above.