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05-14-2004, 01:58 AM
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Barbara,
Here is another suggestion to help you straighten out the drawing and proportions in order to get a good likeness: If you can, print details from the reference photo (of the girl's head and of the boy's head, etc.) to the same scale as the painting. I find this immensely helpful in my own work.
There is a measuring utility in Photoshop buried in the eyedropper tool. Measure the head in the photo, and measure the head in the painting. Divide (using a calculator) the dimension from the painting by the dimension from the photo. Write down the result. Under Image/Image Size in Photoshop you can use that calculation result to multiply with either the height or width dimensions to make the photograph file match the scale of your painting (first you may want to reduce the DPI to 96 so you don't have an overwhelmingly huge file).
Once you get the hang of this it is easy to bring your reference image right up to the scale of your painting, and from that you can print out any detail needed, to hold up right next to your painting for comparison.
Hope this helps!
Garth
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05-14-2004, 11:25 AM
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Black and white copies
Barbara, I think you have done an excellent job on this portrait and it has been interesting to watch the suggestions for improvements and how your painting has evolved.
I don't have Photoshop but I'm reading a lot about it. I have a WIP posted and wanted to get a better idea of the values so I took my reference photo to Kinko's and made a couple of black and white copies. It was helpful to enlarge the photo to the size I'm working on, as Garth suggested in one of his posts having the same size to look at is helpful.
I'm now wondering about how valuable Photoshop might be but that's a subject for another threat.
Barbara, I will continue to watch as you improve this painting. I think it's amazing that you can so easily correct something once it's pointed out to you, not everybody can do that. And that's what is so great about this forum, all the help people are willing to give.
Joan
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05-14-2004, 06:39 PM
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SOG Member FT Professional '09 Honors, Finalist, PSOA '07 Cert of Excel PSOA '06 Cert of Excel PSOA '06 Semifinalist, Smithsonian OBPC '05 Finalist, PSOA
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Originally Posted by Joan Breckwoldt
I'm now wondering about how valuable Photoshop might be but that's a subject for another threat.
Joan
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Threat?! Joan, you are scaring me!
Garth
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05-14-2004, 08:06 PM
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Oooops!
Garth, sorry about bat. Next tim I'll use spelchick.
Joan
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05-14-2004, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Garth Herrick
Barbara,
Here is another suggestion to help you straighten out the drawing and proportions in order to get a good likeness: If you can, print details from the reference photo (of the girl's head and of the boy's head, etc.) to the same scale as the painting. I find this immensely helpful in my own work.
There is a measuring utility in Photoshop buried in the eyedropper tool. Measure the head in the photo, and measure the head in the painting. Divide (using a calculator) the dimension from the painting by the dimension from the photo. Write down the result. Under Image/Image Size in Photoshop you can use that calculation result to multiply with either the height or width dimensions to make the photograph file match the scale of your painting (first you may want to reduce the DPI to 96 so you don't have an overwhelmingly huge file).
Once you get the hang of this it is easy to bring your reference image right up to the scale of your painting, and from that you can print out any detail needed, to hold up right next to your painting for comparison.
Hope this helps!
Garth
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Garth, I wonder whether this works in Photoshop Elements as well. I've had a devil of a time matching the size of reference photos to portraits in the past. This would definitely make my life easier!
Leslie
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05-14-2004, 06:34 PM
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SOG Member FT Professional '09 Honors, Finalist, PSOA '07 Cert of Excel PSOA '06 Cert of Excel PSOA '06 Semifinalist, Smithsonian OBPC '05 Finalist, PSOA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leslie Ficcaglia
Garth, I wonder whether this works in Photoshop Elements as well. I've had a devil of a time matching the size of reference photos to portraits in the past. This would definitely make my life easier!
Leslie
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Leslie, I have no idea. I don't have PhotoShop Elements. If someone does, maybe they can check if there is a measuring tool option in the eyedropper, or somewhere else.
Garth
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