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Old 01-30-2006, 07:18 AM   #1
Mischa Milosevic Mischa Milosevic is offline
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Do you know this Old Masters name?




Man on the cross, charcoal on umbria paper, 49cm x 70cm

I am posting this here even though it mite be considered as a work in progress. I will not mention the artists name just in case someone would care to attempt to name the Maestro.

The reason I post this is to give an idea of the procedure used by the old masters. Keep in mind Not All the masters used this method but for me it is a learning tool to understand their thinking while they made ready for a painting.

The drawing I am working from is A4 in size and I am using the comparative method of measuring for the grater proportions and the rest of the measuring is done by eye . The initial sketch was done on canson and then transferred to the umbria.

Share with me what you think and all comments and questions are welcome.
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Old 01-30-2006, 07:21 AM   #2
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My copy

This is my attempt at a copy
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Old 01-30-2006, 07:27 AM   #3
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A close - up

Correctingplacements of tone and forms
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Old 01-30-2006, 08:49 AM   #4
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By Umbria paper, do you mean earth-color toned paper? What is A4 sized paper? What does, "transferred to the Umbria" mean? If Umbria is a tone, can't the paper be toned prior to the drawing?
Please clarify.
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Old 01-30-2006, 09:05 AM   #5
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Mischa, to me this looks french. Perhaps David or Gericault?
No,no, to a better look maybe Moroni?
Albert,I think Umbria is the name of the paper, Fabriano normally names paper with geographical names.

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Old 01-30-2006, 09:22 AM   #6
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Albert, thank you for the question I would be happy to clarify for you.

Umbria is the name of the paper made in Italy if I'm not wrong by Fabriano. Yes A4 is the size 29.7cm x 21cm. The paper is cream color closer to white. If you care to know more in regard to the Umbria paper I am sure you could do a net search and get extensive. The texture of the paper is soft and absorbent. It is excellent for charcoal work. I have used Roma as well as some French papers. It all comes down to preference and what you would like from a paper.

Ilaria, good guess Giovany Moroni, Theodore Gericault no but both have the touch. David, I
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Old 01-31-2006, 12:11 PM   #7
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Let me give a bit of a clue Spain is where he is from and first letter is F. Ring a bell yet? Anyhow, this peace is not a priority so I am not rushed to finish. If by chance someone would like to start a old master charcoal copy (good source the Bargue book) and they like a few pointers on that stile of rendering I would be pleased to walk them through.

So, first start with a construct drawing and than lets have a look. I do have some of the Bargue drawings scanned and can send the file if I have it.
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I give up Misha, can't name a spanish master with an F, unless is F as Francisco but this doesn't look like Goya or Zurbaran maybe?
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Yes, thanks for asking. It is on the front page here. I do not think I have another photo at the moment. Sorry.
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