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03-01-2005, 03:40 PM
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Pack
I must pack for Raleigh now. I'll check in when I get back from the workshop. I'll be curious to see what is here when i get back.
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03-01-2005, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Timothy C. Tyler
Marvin, since you posted this image here as part of this discussion on color, I assume you welcome a critique of it?
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Tim,
would this critique possibility be open to everyone here ?
Allan
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03-01-2005, 03:51 PM
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Welcome
I think that would be great. You'll have to ask Marvin though. A cadmium or full palette as compared to an earth palette. If you wish to critique place your work next to mine or next to a dead master you admire. I you want to critique you must place you own work next to the one you are speaking of-okay? How's that sound?
Moderators, should we do this elsewhere?
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03-01-2005, 04:02 PM
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I'd like to see that, as well. It might prove very educational for us struggling self-taught folks.
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in my opinion, Sargent, Waterhouse and Sorolla were second tier, at best,
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(Minh grabs his heart) "Aaaaackkkk! Did Mr. Mattelson just say what I think he said? Aaaaaaahhhhh!!!!!"
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03-01-2005, 04:06 PM
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SOG Member FT Professional '04 Merit Award PSA '04 Best Portfolio PSA '03 Honors Artists Magazine '01 Second Prize ASOPA Perm. Collection- Ntl. Portrait Gallery Perm. Collection- Met Leads Workshops
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Tim, impressing you to my way of thinking is not what I'm trying to do. Why exactly are you putting your paintings next to Bouguereau? Is there a point to this? He uses different colors than you. It makes no sense to me.
No, I didn't post my painting for a critique, I believe there is a critique section here for that purpose. You suggested to Wilma that she look at the work of award winning artists to ascertain whether she felt their palettes deserved another look. This was posted as a courtesy to her.
As for comparing your paintings to mine, I'll let the people viewing this thread have the pleasure of doing so. They can say anything they please. I'm happy to let my work stand on it's own, but I do think that its quite generous of you to offer up your work for criticism.
Mihn, I have my students use my adaptation of the Reilly palette. Minh, you heard my opinion correctly.
Alan, I couldn't agree more.
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03-01-2005, 04:23 PM
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Marvin and Tim,
Having been here awhile....
I am very proud of you gentlemen. What civility! And on a subject that is clearly something you are both passionate about. I think it takes a lot of class to be able to disagree in ways that do not result in .... ugly exchanges.
This discussion can be very very informative and I appreciate it - so continue with your wonderful manners and let us all absord the various opinions being spoken of.
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03-01-2005, 04:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin Mattelson
Tim,
No, I didn't post my painting for a critique, I believe there is a critique section here for that purpose.
As for comparing your paintings to mine, I'll let the people viewing this thread have the pleasure of doing so. They can say anything they please. I'm happy to let my work stand on it's own, but I do think that its quite generous of you to offer up your work for criticism.
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Just to clear, I said, I'd be glad to compare mine with yours side by side. I did NOT offer these up for general critique UNLESS you want to do so too with yours as well. Read carefully. It could be fun & educational -we could do it for the students, Marv.
Come on...
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03-01-2005, 05:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Timothy C. Tyler
I would welcome a side by side comparison of several of your works next to mine if you like. Here are three you may use; As a matter of comparison, I've put mine next to William Bouguereau.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Timothy C. Tyler
Marvin, since you posted this image here as part of this discussion on color, I assume you welcome a critique of it?
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Tim, since you posted your images here as part of this discussion on color, I assume you welcome a critique of it?
Tim. I believe that simply by posting your paintings here in this public forum, and by the above comments - not to mention the entire context of this thread - you already have "offered these up for general critique." Seriously, can anyone refrain now from comparing your three paintings to Marvin's Samantha? Or your paintings to the Bouguereau you posted? The only question is: do you want to hear what other people are thinking? Or do you only want Marvin to respond?
I'm not sure what your point is in all this, or what you're driving at...?
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03-01-2005, 05:18 PM
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Firstly
Marvin posted his work first. Second I am willing to post one of my works for one of anyone with a earth palette side by side.
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03-01-2005, 05:47 PM
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Reminder to all: This is not the critique section. Only works posted under the appropriate critique category are open to be critiqued by other artists.
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