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Old 05-23-2007, 06:25 PM   #21
Sharon Knettell Sharon Knettell is offline
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Mischa,

That is just lovely. I can't wait to get my hands on the plates.

The Jpg. did not do it justice. The left chest of his top is so delicately depicted, a delightful swirl of pinks and cream.
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Old 05-23-2007, 06:36 PM   #22
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Sharon, I have the talked about book which I purchased when it first came out. The book is an absolute gem.

I would love to see some close up shots of the sentinel if you have any. If you do not have them shame on you and I am utterly sad.
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Old 05-23-2007, 06:44 PM   #23
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Mischa,

The close-up is from the web-site of the museum. It is not compressed and is the clearest reproduction I get get.

I did not know that painting was there until I came across it. I will try and get a close-up when I go there again, but it probably have to be in stealth mode. Things were a lot looser when I was a the Museum School there, knew many of the guards and ran around barefoot on the cool marble floors.
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:05 PM   #24
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Thank you all, for this rich source of information. What could be better than this wonderful source of knowledge toward beauty and instruction.

Ahhhh, ......Amazon. My addiction. Like all addictions - there is satisfaction at the moment. Do you suppose there is a 12-step program for this insatiable quest for knowledge and improvement ???

Well, I need it. Is there a sponsor out there among you to help me? Anybody out there?

Uh, huh. That's what I thought. No one.


PS Yes, I just ordered the two books mentioned grouped together by Amazon.
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Old 05-24-2007, 10:11 PM   #25
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I found the book.

I have a 14 yr old son who has drawing ability and who wants me to teach him how to draw. Unfortunately, I'm of the generation where when coming up you were pretty on your own if you wanted to learn anything about "realism". I'm largely self-taught with a smattering of knowledge I've picked up along the way. I don't have a model for teaching. The Bargue drawing series looks very promising and perhaps a good start for him. (I thank all those who have brought the series to our attention.) I found the book on amazon.fr for 71 euros, about $112 with shipping. Its been a long time since I've used my college french. I don't think I'll be able to translate it without a great deal of effort. I'm just wondering how important is the text? I gather from what I've read here that one tries to duplicate the plates with pencil and paper by sight sizing and double checking measurements. Any info would be great. Thanks much.

Steve
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Old 05-25-2007, 02:15 AM   #26
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Steve, the book is a good start and the instruction is good as well. Being that I've had first hand instruction and experience, with the Bargue plates, I am of the opinion that the sight size approach should be made easier and it has been. Not everyone can jump into the site size approach while standing at a distance. So, I propagate the sitting down approach for at least three plates. When a student has come to understand the working method that the Bargue plates teach, then one is ready to do the site size at a distance but from a casts and in charcoal.

All the best to you and your boy and let me know if I can help
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Old 05-25-2007, 07:45 AM   #27
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Steve,

Can you post the Amazon French site please. I can stumble through it, as a matter of fact it would give me a great chance to brush up on my French.

I also bumbled through, even though I went briefly to The Boston Museum School, a waste of my time and my parents money.
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Old 05-25-2007, 09:55 AM   #28
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Thanks Mischa. So, you're saying the text is an integral part? Would I miss much of the instruction if I got the book just for the drawings?
Sharon, here's the link: [url]http://www.amazon.fr/Charles-Bargue-Jean-L
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Old 05-25-2007, 10:05 AM   #29
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Craig,

De remerciement si beaucoup!

There are great translation sites on the web if you get stuck!
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Old 05-25-2007, 10:21 AM   #30
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Je vous en prie!
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