Portrait Artist Forum    

Go Back   Portrait Artist Forum > Cafe Guerbois Discussions - Moderator: Michele Rushworth
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search


Reply
 
Topic Tools Search this Topic Display Modes
Old 02-10-2007, 02:35 PM   #21
Ilaria Rosselli Del Turco Ilaria Rosselli Del Turco is offline
Juried Member
 
Ilaria Rosselli Del Turco's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Location: London,UK
Posts: 640



My take on this works as official portraits:
I am sure these are not the one and only paintings depicting the royals. I find it quite normal that an artist which is widely regarded as very influential in his country is commissioned to tackle the subject. To me it looks that he did so honestly, with the same attitude he has used toward other sitters and which has landed him this commission. Also if he is so well known, Norwegians will be visually used to his style.

He hasn't mocked the royalties or made them look ugly (see Freud's portrait of Elizabeth), rather he has worked on their iconic look: they are immediately recognizable as north european monarchs, the queen almost looks like a doll in her satately dress, the king like a lead soldier, which I have seen in other paintings by Gullvag on his website. I think he almost allude to their official persona almost as a role they have to play.
I believe these works will be hanged more as interesting works of art rather than " beware the king is watching you" painting, and as such I find them very respectable.
There is a dark side to them , is true, but I can't help being fascinated by these images.
I don't find them lame, David, it looks to me as this artist IS trying to include elements of abstraction and action painting, and that they do work in contest. But again it's a personal view.
Ilaria
__________________
Ilaria Rosselli Del Turco
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2007, 03:21 PM   #22
Grethe Angen Grethe Angen is offline
Juried Member
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Location: Norway
Posts: 129
Interesting thoughts, Illaria. but I do not agree with you. Nevermind.

As Allan mentioned there will be a Nordic portrait competition where they accept abstract paining. along with traditional portraiture. In my opinion abstract portraiture should compete separate because I think it is wrong to put the two up against each other.
__________________
Grethe
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2007, 02:01 PM   #23
Thomasin Dewhurst Thomasin Dewhurst is offline
'06 Artists Mag Finalist, '07 Artists Mag Finalist, ArtKudos Merit Award Winner '08
 
Thomasin Dewhurst's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Location: U.K.
Posts: 732
All art is abstract - sometimes it just happens to look like something recognisable. It is the balance of the two that makes for great representational art, take Degas for example.

He just pushes wonderful designs of colour and tone into the realm of space and form as we know it, but barely. It is our own minds that flesh out the figure into a reproduction of reality.

And our own Sharon Knettel

Sometimes, often, mere representation of a thing does not allow for a painting to sing. The artist might as well have been painting walls. And songs can be a lot more that just lullabies.
__________________
Thomasin
www.thomasindewhurst.com
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2007, 04:59 PM   #24
Mike McCarty Mike McCarty is offline
PHOTOGRAPHY MODERATOR
SOG Member
'03 Finalist Taos SOPA
'03 HonMen SoCal ASOPA
'03 Finalist SoCal ASOPA
'04 Finalist Taos SOPA
 
Mike McCarty's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Posts: 2,674
There are those that believe that anything created by human hands is beautiful. I tend not to be so generous.

When you create representation art, without the use of clouds for hair, or figs for ears; upon completion you have taken yourself out of the loop. There is no need to call you back to explain your meaning, or weave your motives to those who would stand and listen. There is, in fact, much less chance for celebrity. Some, however, understand that if they can create some mystery, intrigue, or exclusivity surrounding either their process, or their reasoning for the use of figs, then they will still be needed. Those that are intrigued will continue to call on them to explain (or refuse to explain) themselves. If in the explanation even more ambiguity is created then all the better.

What a wonderful thing
__________________
Mike McCarty
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2007, 07:04 PM   #25
Grethe Angen Grethe Angen is offline
Juried Member
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Location: Norway
Posts: 129
Quote:
Mike McCarty..... Those that are intrigued will continue to call on them to explain (or refuse to explain) themselves. If in the explanation even more ambiguity is created then all the better.
Here`s Artist and Queen, while explaining Ibsen ... http://nrk.no/contentfile/file/1.101...img1017075.jpg
__________________
Grethe
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2007, 07:18 PM   #26
Mischa Milosevic Mischa Milosevic is offline
Juried Member
FT Professional
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Location: Bad Homburg, Germany
Posts: 707
I am saddened by the fact that these paintings, supposedly representations of nobility, are considered as works of art let alone representations of a human being. Is this is the artists imagination or this is for financial gain it makes no difference. If an educated artist cannot find beauty in another and in things created and must represent what he/she seas in such a manner then there is something wrong. Where is the problem or who is wrong? I think we all know and is clearly seen and understood. It is sad.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2007, 07:26 PM   #27
Mischa Milosevic Mischa Milosevic is offline
Juried Member
FT Professional
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Location: Bad Homburg, Germany
Posts: 707
The link must be typed out and you get the photo of the queen and the artist.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2007, 07:31 PM   #28
Grethe Angen Grethe Angen is offline
Juried Member
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Location: Norway
Posts: 129
Hello Mischa,
yes it`s sad, I agree.

I tried to post a link to some ver interesting images for those who have found this topic intersting. But because there are strange letters in our language it is not possible to post a link. But if you google the following on images:
Gullvaag, Ibsen you should be able to see them.
__________________
Grethe
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2007, 01:25 AM   #29
Cynthia Daniel Cynthia Daniel is offline
SOG & FORUM OWNER
 
Cynthia Daniel's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Location: Tampa Bay, FL
Posts: 2,129
Send a message via ICQ to Cynthia Daniel Send a message via AIM to Cynthia Daniel Send a message via MSN to Cynthia Daniel Send a message via Yahoo to Cynthia Daniel
I fixed the link so it works now.
__________________
Cynthia Daniel, Owner of Forum & Stroke of Genius

www.PortraitArtist.com
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2007, 03:13 AM   #30
Grethe Angen Grethe Angen is offline
Juried Member
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Location: Norway
Posts: 129
Cynthia, Thank you very much.
__________________
Grethe
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing this Topic: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Topics
Thread Topic Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Go for excellence in portraiture William Whitaker Creativity Issues - 76 05-22-2008 04:08 PM
British portraiture Michele Rushworth Cafe Guerbois Discussions - Moderator: Michele Rushworth 8 02-12-2007 04:09 PM
Contemporary Portraiture: Royal Society of Portrait Painters Andrea Kantrowitz Resources on the Web 7 10-18-2005 09:39 AM
The business suit in portraiture Michael Triple Cafe Guerbois Discussions - Moderator: Michele Rushworth 21 06-06-2002 03:24 PM
The Art and Practice of Portraiture Events Sponsored by The ASOPAF Jennifer Williams Upcoming Events & Announcements 0 07-23-2001 12:30 PM

 

Make a Donation



Support the Forum by making a donation or ordering on Amazon through our search or book links..







All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:44 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.