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Old 10-12-2005, 08:09 PM   #11
Molly Sherrick Phifer Molly Sherrick Phifer is offline
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When I get my wooden palette, I plan on painting it a mid-value neutral gray. It should be easier to judge value etc. that way. I love natural wood tones, but if they might throw off my ability to judge color/value, I am happy to paint over the natural grain.

As far as the box goes, wouldn't a plastic storage box of similar dimension, with a lid be good? I use the Masterson palette box now, which would be too small, but it doesn't seem to be a whole lot more than a plastic storage container when it comes right down to it.
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Old 10-12-2005, 08:43 PM   #12
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Thanks, Molly: I decided to by two palettes. One made by Lee Boynton 16x24 and one from Artisan, through Dick Blick. One will be darker wood and one will be rather on the small side, 11X18, and in the maple color. I'm used to the white paper palette, so I'm going to try the maple since it is closer to a flesh tone. The Artisan palette also has a rubber thumb hole that was recommended by Chris Saper, although she uses the walnut in the medium size.
So, I think I'm set for now. By the way, how do you keep the gray paint from flaking off when you scrap your palette? I think the gray surface is probably the best. I believe that's what Daniel Greene uses.
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Old 10-13-2005, 09:39 PM   #13
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Jean Marie, you made good choices, I have the two palettes you're getting. I love the Boynton palette! It is so light and well balanced; I can't imagine using any other. We just got a box of palettes for our school store (made by a local man) and they aren't nearly as nice as mine. I always have to compare and I haven't run across one as good as Boynton's. I sanded the finish off mine and put linseed oil on it. Then I used linseed oil to clean it every day for a few weeks. I clean it daily with turp, and every once in a while I wipe it down with oil. Some people smear their left over paint around to give it the grey or maroon color, but I prefer the wood surface.

I use the artisan palette in my french easel. I like the thumb gasket, it fits well. But I didn't like the light color of the wood, so I'm working on darkening it to match what I'm used to using. I bought it this summer and have only used it seven or eight times, so I'm still trying to get it to the right color. It's not balanced which isn't that big of a deal since I usually lay it on the easel in front of me while I paint.
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Old 10-13-2005, 09:57 PM   #14
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Debra: Thanks for your email. These materials are expensive, so I need to make smart choices so I don't go around buying up this and that and trying everything out and learning the hard way. That's why I'm being very particular about this purchase. My next is an easel, so brace yourself! To crank or not to crank, that is the question...Ha!

I'm wondering which color and size of Artisan you got. And how did you get through that surface coating to work on the color? Did you sand it? It seems like a lot of money to pay for a rubber gasket around a thumb hole if the color isn't right and it's not even balanced. Hmmmmm. What do you think? And which size Boynton do you have? Did you get the walnut? Can't recall if it came in wood choices like the Artisan.

Thanks for hanging in here with me...
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Old 10-14-2005, 11:12 PM   #15
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I got the maple Artisan, 11x18 size. I didn't do anything to the finish on this one, I just started smearing my left over paint around at the end of painting sessions. I just checked it and I think it could probably stand a little more paint smearing to get it to the right value, but it still has a smooth feel to the surface. I have pretty small hands so I had my husband cut the u shape deeper so I can hold brushes and the palette with the same hand. It has a dent to fit my arm too, but I can't remember if that was there or if I had him cut it. I think I had him cut it because it seems like I remember it hurting my arm when I first got it. I had him match the cutting to my Boynton palette, which fits me very well.

I don't think I realized the Artisan came in color choices when I bought mine or I would have gotten a darker one. I bought mine directly from the store (Blick's) and got what they had in stock. My only reason for buying this palette was because (like a dummy!) I left behind the one that came with my french easel when we moved here. (We moved here for me to go to art school, and most of our stuff is in storage back in Washington state.) I tried the cheap $5 palettes, but they hurt my thumb, that's how I ended up with the Artisan. So I guess my recommendation would be that if you don't need it, don't buy it, but the thumb gasket is nice.

I have the smaller Boynton, and I'm not sure what kind of wood it is. And I would recommend that if you can buy only one palette that it be the Boynton. I love mine, I think I'll start a Lee Boynton fan club!
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Old 10-15-2005, 01:44 PM   #16
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Debra: Now that you've shared about your Artisan, I think I'd like to get the walnut one, but they are out of stock until December. So I'm going to order the Boynton today and cancel my order for the maple Artisan. (Good grief!) I have Lee's phone number, so I think I'll call him and talk with him about the palettes.
I really appreciate your advice and help with this. I've spent a lot of money of things that didn't work out for me, so I'm trying to be more selective in my old age! Ha! Too bad I didn't do that in my personal life! Hee, hee.
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Old 10-15-2005, 02:54 PM   #17
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I have a palette made for me by my Dad to my specifications, a very simple, flat birch panel, not balanced or with any particularly creative shape. It's about 10x14" or so. It's so small and lightweight that it doesn't need to be balanced.

I looked at the Boynton palettes at the Portrait Society event in D.C. and they did feel great, though!

I painted my palette grey, with oil paint. It doesn't come off when I scrape it and I really like the medium value color. I think it might even be a good idea to try a white palette if you paint on a white canvas, as I do, to make it easier to judge your colors. Since I paint with a grey palette I should probably stain my canvases the same color, but I don't (for various other reasons).
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Old 10-15-2005, 04:23 PM   #18
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Michele: Thanks for sharing about your palette. I'm going to go ahead and get the Boynton for now. I don't think I can go wrong. My son does wood work, so I might have him use the Boynton as an idea and make me an even smaller one out of my choice of wood. I'll let you know how it turn out!
As for the white palette, Helen VanWyk says never to use them. I have a ton of her books, and she swears by the medium toned wooden palette. But now that you mentioned the white canvas....you've got me thinking. I always start white, so it's something to consider.
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Old 10-16-2005, 10:22 PM   #19
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Jean Marie, I think the color of your palette should complement the way you paint. After I transfer the drawing, my first step on the canvas is to complete a thin quick lay-in, getting as close to the values and color as possible. So my canvas is completely covered in a couple hours; that's why I like the darker wood palette. Grey would give the same effect. Someone who paints in sections and leaves the white for a long time would benefit from a white palette.
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Old 10-20-2005, 11:09 PM   #20
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Jean Marie, I don't know if you have purchased one yet, or read my response at Cennini, but hopefully I can find the images and just to repeat.

Would palettes that are made of good hard wood are a standard throughout history. They become a lighter value the more you use them and the paint develops a natural patina. You can't beat them. Especially as you become more comfortable with values it will not be such a big deal, are you toning your canvas gray? Or a burnt sienna type brown, these figure in too.

The ones Max made for me based on Whitaker's patterns are not only made superbly but are finished in the best possible way for keeping them clean.

Because of the horn design, it eliminates the extra weight to balance the palette thus it stays very light. The smaller one that fits a Masterson Box, is lighter than a tube of paint.

On top of all of this they are very reasonably priced.

I forget how Max want's them ordered on his site, he doesn't have them specified yet, so just shoot him an email for more info. I recommend them highly, for they too are a work of art.

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