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08-19-2002, 09:15 AM
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Associate Member
Joined: Jul 2002
Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL
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Building a portfolio
Maybe this has been discussed already, but I'm fairly new here, and although I've been spending a lot of time reading here, I'm still not sure how to approach this issue.
I really need to develop a portfolio of human portraits (as opposed to pets) and wonder what the best approach is. If I ask someone, say a neighbor to sit for me, they might feel obllgated to buy the painting from me and my real purpose is to get the practice painting from life and building a portfolio. There are some really cute children in the neighborhood, but again, the parents will think I'm just trying to sell them a painting. Any advice?
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08-19-2002, 10:44 AM
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SOG & FORUM OWNER
Joined: Jun 2001
Location: Tampa Bay, FL
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Doreen,
If you use the "search messages" feature in the menu at the top, you'll find several posts on the subject of portfolios. Select the option to "search titles only."
As far as what people will think, as long as you're clear with them in the beginning as to your purpose and the use of the painting and the ownership, there shouldn't be a problem.
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08-20-2002, 08:28 AM
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Associate Member
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Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL
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Thanks, that search feature is really nice! It didn't produce too many threads but enough to give me another lead to check out.
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08-20-2002, 08:48 AM
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FT Pro, Mem SOG,'08 Cert Excellence PSA, '02 Schroeder Portrait Award Copley Soc, '99 1st Place PSA, '98 Sp Recognition Washington Soc Portrait Artists, '97 1st Prize ASOPA, '97 Best Prtfolio ASOPA
Joined: Jun 2001
Location: Peterborough, NH
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I have a friend who asks friends and acquaintances to sit for a portrait (usually a photography session) and then she takes them to lunch as "payment" for the favor. She is then free to use the painting as she sees fit and the model is not obligated to purchase (or even see) the painting when it is completed.
BUT if somebody does want to purchase a portrait that you have done of, let's say, their child...what on earth is wrong with selling it to them? Do you not wish to be a professional portrait artist?
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08-20-2002, 09:16 AM
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Associate Member
Joined: Jul 2002
Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL
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Karin, thanks for responding.
Yes, I do want to be a prof portrait painter. My problem is with the approach. I live in FL, the scam capital of the world, it seems, and everyone here has become so cynical that you have a really hard time approaching anyone about anything. I certainly wouldn't mind selling a portrait but when I'm asking to paint your child you might say no because you don't want to be swindled into buying a painting that you didn't ask for. That seems to be the prevailing attitude here anyway. I'll have to find a way to tip-toe up to the subject. Most of my neighbors don't even know that I paint.
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08-20-2002, 10:51 AM
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PAINTING PORTRAITS FROM LIFE MODERATOR FT Professional
Joined: Nov 2001
Location: Loveland, CO
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Doreen,
I understand your predicament - approaching people to model can be a big challenge. You don't want to appear like a freak or some scam artist (heh, no pun intended).
This is further complicated when you are male approaching women and mothers of children.
I use models for concept paintings and stock portraits to take to shows. I have found that the best thing is to just be upfront and professional, be brief, and then walk away and let them contact you if they are interested.
I approached a young woman recently, gave her my card, told her who I was, and asked her to model. Her first reply was that she was 16. Without skipping a beat I replied that I would still like her to model, and would like to speak to her parents about it. I have a model agreement that they would have to sign and I would like one of them to be present at the shoot. And, I would pay her $20 per hour and she should talk to her parents about it, check out my website, and call me if they were interested. When the parents saw that I was for real, that I had a business card, and wanted their child to pose for tastful, fully clothed poses, they called me back, we had a brief conversation, and we scheduled the shoot.
My recommendation is simply be professional and be upfront. As for selling the works to the parents, well...as Karin said, that's what we do!
Hope that helps!
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08-20-2002, 11:08 AM
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SENIOR MODERATOR SOG Member FT Professional, Author '03 Finalist, PSofATL '02 Finalist, PSofATL '02 1st Place, WCSPA '01 Honors, WCSPA Featured in Artists Mag.
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Location: Arizona
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When I have approached strangers to model, I very much follow what Michael describes. In return for modeling, (I always have them sign the release first) I give them a copy of the photos and a 8" x 10" photo of the finished painting.
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08-20-2002, 10:48 PM
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Associate Member
Joined: Aug 2002
Location: Port Elizabeth, NJ
Posts: 534
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Doreen,
I started off painting people I knew. My first portrait was of the child of friends and I made it very clear that it wasn't going to be for sale for the forseeable future, since I was trying to build up a body of work, and also found it difficult to let a painting go unless I knew from the beginning that itwould be a commission which I couldn't keep. Then I painted a woman friend, and after that the daughter of my secretary. In each case, I had them sign a release and also gave them a copy of the picture (good photocopies once they became available).
I carried photos of my work in a small album, and got my first commission by showing a friend a portrait of another mutual acquaintance (a game warden) about whom we were talking. He was really struck by it, and asked if I could do a portrait of his wife, and I was on my way. Because I seemed to be painting people who were fairly well known in our area, it helped when I pulled out my mini-portfolio because others could recognize them readily and see that the likeness and spirit were true to the subjects. Once you have a portfolio and/or website and/or a name for portraiture in your area, it will be easier for you to approach people to paint them or their child, just as Michael described. At that point they'll be flattered rather than wary. Good luck!
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08-21-2002, 08:07 AM
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Associate Member
Joined: Jul 2002
Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL
Posts: 43
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Thanks so much for sharing your methods of approach, because that is the hardest thing for me to do.
Michael, you are right it's even harder for a man to do and the professional approach you describe sounds good to me.
Chris, the pictures are a good idea and the final photo of the painting.
Leslie, your approach to friends is a great idea. I have a few friends that would be good models and if I approach them as you recommend they might be willing.
I'm also looking for a local life drawing group. I tried to start one awhile ago but nobody else was interested.
So now I have to dig up a release form and get to work. Thanks again.
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08-21-2002, 08:35 AM
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Associate Member
Joined: Aug 2002
Location: Port Elizabeth, NJ
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Doreen, I'm also lucky enough to have two very photogenic granddaughters, and so far I've painted six portraits or figurative works of them, either together or separately. Family members are another wonderful lode. And it helps to paint different types, ages and genders, so that a look at your portfolio reminds someone that they'd love to have a portrait of their aging mother, and so forth. I have seen recommendations that it's good to have your subjects dressed in a manner that makes them look affluent, like the typical portrait subjects you see in areas where they're popular as potential family heirlooms, rather than doing character studies. I've done both and it doesn't seem to matter in my area.
By the way, several of my paintings are from quite old photos I've taken, either of strangers or of family members. I carry my camera with me almost wherever I go, and take shots on the beach, at parks, and so forth. If you're a camera bug too, you may have lots of material you haven't even thought of.
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