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12-20-2001, 08:46 AM
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Associate Member FT Pro 5 yrs
Joined: Jul 2001
Location: East Northport, NY
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Cynthia, Thank you. Yes, I see that and have now changed the phone number font and size. Plus all the fonts now are Bernhard Modern Bold and Larissa. I remember being told that before about not mixing more than two fonts. Also, I changed several of the passages to green. I tried Amber and it didn't read as clearly as green on that paper.
Darla, Here is why I produce my own brochures. I have edited this brochure about thirty times. I would dread to think what that alone would have cost at the printer!
Cynthia, I have heard good things about Paint Shop Pro. I used Print Artist to create this and perhaps it's time to buy Paint Shop. Is that in a software package at the office supply stores? Or do you buy it online? Well, it's the right time of the year to suggest a new software!
Thanks for all the help! I love my brochure now.
Renee
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12-20-2001, 10:36 AM
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SOG & FORUM OWNER
Joined: Jun 2001
Location: Tampa Bay, FL
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Renee,
The thing to be aware of is that there is no way to print all the way to the edge of the paper on your printer. That's a printer thing, not a Paint Shop Pro restriction. So, even if you made a background pattern, you wouldn't achieve what you want. You wouldn't be able to do it in the program you're in even if the software capability was there.
I'm not familiar with the program you're using and how intuitive it is in relation to doing a brochure. But, Paint Shop Pro has no orientation towards a particular type of output. You're totally on your own with that.
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12-20-2001, 09:02 PM
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Associate Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 504
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Printing idea
Renee,
I had a thought about printing your own brochure. If you printed it on your own printer, even though your background wouldn't go all the way to the edges (in print lingo, you want your design to 'bleed' off the paper), you could print as close to your edges as your printer allows, then trim your paper so your design then would go all the way to your newly cut edge. Your end product would be a bit smaller, but that might be a way to achieve the look I think you may be after. If you could use 8 1/2" x 14" paper you could trim it down to 11" on one side anyway.
Or . . . you could have your brochure printed in 4-color at the printer and only have him print the 4-color artwork (the photos of your portraits) and a background if you wanted. Printing 1000 of these isn't much more than printing 100, costwise. Once the plates are made and it's on the printer, it's just a matter of paper usage (mostly). Once you have 1000 of your brochures with only pictures, NO type, you could then run the brochures through your printer at home and print in black type whatever you like. You could just do as many as needed and then when you need to, change your type and print out more.
Hope this helps,
Joan
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12-21-2001, 09:56 AM
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Associate Member FT Pro 5 yrs
Joined: Jul 2001
Location: East Northport, NY
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Joan, Thanks. I spoke to my local printer about reproducing them for me. They started talking big numbers for scanning my image files. It would have cost over $600. just to scan, for four images. Plus, as new portraits come off the easel, I like to update the brochure and change the photos.
I actually have fun creating with my print programs and watching it come out of the printer. I love what Cynthia did with my brochure and I showed the new one to everyone. They agree it looks so much classier.
I don't really care about saving a few dollars. I'd rather have the freedom to change my mind at anytime and the satisfaction of knowing I did the work. Am I weird?
Your idea is valid but I just don't think I would have the patience to square and cut every brochure.
Renee
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12-21-2001, 09:37 PM
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Associate Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Location: Houston, TX
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Trimming paper
Renee,
Sounds like you just about have it figured out! I just want to mention one thing, the printer will usually trim paper for you. I just did our Christmas cards, had 125 printed up and he trimmed them to 10x7" size. He charges $1 per cut, even if you have 125 of something. So, four cuts for four sides equals just $4 for all that cutting. They have a big machine that can cut 100's of pages at once. I had to quickly xerox 20 more cards to send out so I took my card stock to him and he cut those 20 for me. (They score and fold paper too.)
I just wanted you to know that you wouldn't have to cut each brochure by hand. Kinko's here in Houston also cuts paper for the same cheap price. It sounds like you don't need this info now, but maybe someday it'll come in handy while you're designing your own brochures or cards.
Happy Holidays,
Joan
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02-05-2002, 04:05 AM
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Juried Member Featured in Pastel Journal
Joined: Jan 2002
Location: Arizona
Posts: 457
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Good topic!
I have been printing mine out 10 at a time to pass out to friends and acquaintances. I have a lot of POTENTIAL clients and they are interested in my progress.
As I add new and more interesting work to my portfolio, I replace photos on the brochure.
I use CorelDraw and have really simplified it from what I once thought were simple colored blocks behind the pictures, to this.
Renee and I exchanged ideas during the holidays and this is THIS WEEK'S evolution of the multifunctional mini portfolio:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/i...iggiecover.JPG
The back panel in the middle is designed as a mailer, which I mostly encourage them to do, if they take some, and the general pricing is on the inside flap.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/i...2/bigginny.jpg
I have labeled them by size, medium and appropriate price.
Some how it is not getting through. I start at 8x10 SINGLE HEAD and add 50%-75% for additional elements (to keep it simple) and many STILL don't get it that bodies are more than heads, and TWO heads are TWO heads.
BUT that is MY marketing problem, I should aim at a higher common denominator. Please, keep this thread going, it is very informative!
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02-06-2002, 05:06 PM
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Associate Member FT Pro 5 yrs
Joined: Jul 2001
Location: East Northport, NY
Posts: 74
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Debra, Glad to see you here!
I wanted to say that after my January show, I had to replace the brochures every week as everyone kept taking them. Business cards too.
Two calls came in, one for "Riesling" on my website. I quoted her $1200. ( the price I set to sell him at) and haven't heard from her since!
The other was from a lady who kept asking me for the "next lowest price".  When it didn't get low enough ( too bad ) she said the famous "I'll get back to you". Hah.
But, all the brochures are out there and I am on to another style of painting anyway, so they must be thinking "Someday, when my stocks come back up".  I think the brochures are a great idea.
It took me a long time to get my prices up and I am not lowering them. I know what my portraits/paintings are worth now and I feel confident that when the right client comes along they will sell.
Renee
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02-07-2002, 08:49 AM
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SOG Member FT Professional
Joined: Sep 2001
Location: Cleveland Heights, OH
Posts: 184
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Congrats Renee!
Stick to your guns and don't sell yourself short! If people quibble about price, they're not the clients for you.
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02-09-2002, 03:02 AM
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MODERATOR EMERITUS SOG Member FT Professional '00 Best of Show, PSA '03 Featured, Artists Mag Conducts Workshops
Joined: Jun 2001
Location: Wisconsin
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Debra
Love your work! I do have several comments to make about your brochure in particular, and portfolios and brochures in general.
1) I am concerned about your prices. I couldn't clearly read all of the information, but your numbers seem to be way too low. I tell my "just out there" students, (you are already beyond that stage...) to start at $500 for an oil head and shoulder. After they've done a few and are comfortable, to jump to $1000. You need to differentiate yourself from the quick draw artists. There is nothing wrong if that is your chosen course, but if you want to be a professional portrait artist, you need to be charging a price which will allow you to make a living. (Surprisingly, many of the problems you and Renee alluded to, i.e., people getting cheap on you, are directly related to your charging too little. You need to price yourself into a different cliental.)
The portfolio or brochure:
2) Separate categories If you want to do animal portraits, have a portfolio/brochure with just animals. Have a separate portfolio/brochure with just charcoals. Have a portfolio/brochure with just children. I would not have animal portraits in with your human portraits (unless they are both in the same painting). I would not include non-portraits, i.e., the figure pose or still life. You are better off having a portfolio/brochure that has six portraits of children than a scattershot that has everything.
3) Standardize your work. There is a typical portrait. It is dignified. It follows conventions. There is the head and shoulders, the head and hands, the seated 3/4, the standing 3/4, and the full length. Price by the size/body part. I would stay away from the full grin smiling portraits. (Grins are fine for the charcoal, which I see as less formal and more experimental than oil). Don't do candids. Look carefully at the body of work that Cynthia Daniel has on the Stroke of Genius sites. Produce enough work to have a solid portfolio before you solicit commissions. You will be judged by the weakest painting in your portfolio. Eliminate any paintings that are not your best. If you only have one good painting, only show that.
4) I suggest to burgeoning portrait artists that they paint five to eight head and shoulders of children for their first portfolio. The head and shoulders paint up fast and the easiest "sale" is to the parents of young children. You can get commissions right in your own backyard. To fill your portfolio with head shots, I suggest you paint your own children, your nieces or nephews. Paint your neighborhood children, but do charge money (even if it's only $50). The parents will love everything you do if it's free, but the second you charge money, they'll have an opinion. It's important to get used to hearing the clients opinion. (They are usually right...)
5) Photographs of the subject do not belong in your portfolio. On this I have a very strong opinion, and I am sure this will cause some controversy, but I personally don't think you should include photographic references of your work in the portfolio/brochure. To most viewers there is an automatic assumption that you have created a likeness. If you include a photograph, you are challenging and encouraging the viewer to compare the two. You are also making the point in the strongest way possible that what you create is a painted photograph. If someone insists that they want to see the photographs, I will show them a different photo from the one I used in the painting. My point is, yes, it does look like the person, but I am not encouraging hypercritical inspection. If you have a strong brochure/portfolio, people will assume that is what the sitter looks like.
This is probably enough for one post.
Peggy
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02-13-2002, 04:32 PM
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Associate Member FT Pro 5 yrs
Joined: Jul 2001
Location: East Northport, NY
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Peggy, Thank you. All good advice.
Well, I am glad I held my price on "Riesling". The first lady never came back but today a fellow called and bought Riesling at the price I set, for his wife for Valentine's Day. I am glad I waited.
Renee
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