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Old 10-06-2004, 09:05 AM   #1
Ilaria Rosselli Del Turco Ilaria Rosselli Del Turco is offline
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Here's a new completed portrait. It's an oil on canvas, 60 x 90 cm.

I am not totally happy with it, but sooner or later I had to declare it finished!

A detail of the hand, which is the part I am satisfied with, even if maybe it's a little too big. The photo of the hand is closer in color and tone to the painting.

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Old 10-07-2004, 09:13 AM   #2
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It's hard to judge so small, would you mind posting a closeup of the face? The texture in the hand looks very good.
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Old 10-08-2004, 07:29 AM   #3
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Jimmy, thanks for asking.

The portrait is not bad, just I was expecting more from myself: The painting is correct, just I did not find anything exciting about it when I was painting (apart from the hand, which came out in a few strokes).

The main reason is because obviously the girl did not seem interested at all (it was a commission from her mother), which made me lose interest.

I think motivation is a key factor, and deciding what the painting is about apart from the likeness. Which in the case is ... nothing.

So this I think is a failed opportunity to do something interesting, but since the mom is happy anyway...
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Old 10-09-2004, 06:00 PM   #4
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The lack of enthusiasm from the model does make the creation a bit of a drag. This piece has less energy than your pieces on your website. I understand that this is a commission, so you feel obligated, but I've decided not to work with models that are not into it. Better luck with future models!
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Old 10-10-2004, 11:16 AM   #5
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Since many of my models are children I'm very familiar with the experience of having a subject who's not "into it". The mom is basically telling them they have to pose whether they like it or not.

There are a few things I do:

First, I try to engage the subject during the photo shoot and talk about anything they are interested in, to try and get them to forget about the camera. That usually loosens them up and we get more relaxed and natural poses.

The second thing I do happens partly before the photo shoot and partly after I get the photos back. I try to decide for myself what I want this painting to be about. I identify one or two words that describe the feeling I would like to convey. I think doing this is part of the "artistry" and one of the reasons clients choose a painting rather than a photography studio to document their lives.

If I am working with an adult or teen client I might ask how they see themselves and what qualities they would like to have communicated. I might give them suggestions and ask if they would like to convey their energetic side or something more calm, etc. Often I'll know what direction to go in just by meeting them.

The current portrait I am painting of a little boy by a lake makes me think of the words "fresh" and "innocent". That leads me to use clean, light colors, simple brushwork, etc. It also encourages me to simplify many forms (like his hands) and reduce contrasts in places I otherwise might emphasize if I had decided to go for the feelings of "movement" and "energy" instead.

The painting in this thread might be said to convey the feelings of "calm" and "elegance". If you decide on something like that you can then work everything in the portrait toward that goal. Then you can make the painting be about something and not have to just let the direction of the painting be decided by the flat response that the subject had during the shoot.
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