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02-06-2007, 07:17 PM
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Royal portraiture
Hello ,
I have been reading interesting topics about various styles of portraiture, and would like to post a link to the official portrait of HM King Harald and HM Queen Sonja of Norway.
Thought it would be interesting to see what actually could be accepted as Presidential portraiture.
I did`t do it, though.
Grethe
http://www.hakon-gullvag.no/eng/port...hp?galleri=vis
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02-07-2007, 05:40 AM
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Well done Grethe for posting such an interesting approach to portraits. These for me are perfectly regal and contemporary portraits, I specially liked the less official painting of the king reading.
When a painter has so deep roots into classical painting (Chardin is one of my favourites too), the results can't just go astray, I mean that his paintings have the solidity of a master with all the frightening speed of modern times thrown into also.
Thank you for this link that I immediately included in my favourits list.
Ilaria
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02-07-2007, 06:13 AM
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Illaria,
thank you for responding. first I`d like to apologize for the laughing icon, it was not meant to be there. if there is a way to delete it I would like to do so.
I have a few questions to those who would be interested to discuss it.
Is this an example of an artist that paint portraits, rather than a portrait-artist? Is there at all a difference to those terms?
Grethe
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02-07-2007, 09:45 AM
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Grethe,
Didn't you mean to post this in the presidential portraiture thread?
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02-07-2007, 10:44 AM
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My goodness, these are certainly different from what would be appealing to most clients here! They are energetic and colorful but too brave for any of the portrait agencies or official portrait clients that I know of in the U.S.
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02-07-2007, 04:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cynthia Daniel
Grethe,
Didn't you mean to post this in the presidential portraiture thread?
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Cynthia,
I thought about it, but then I thought maybe this was the place to start a discussion, maybe. I am a newbie so please guide me.
Michele,
I think not only in the US.I believe it is rather a rare phenomenon that highly profiled persons just accept to be rendered almost like zombies.
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02-07-2007, 05:01 PM
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Wow, these are really interesting, Grethe!
I like their straightforward forcefulness. Also how the floor, wall and face are in textured concert with the plethora of military decorations displayed. Here in America, I fear an artist might be burned at the stake for a similarly inspired effigy of President Bush, but I could easily be wrong. People are afraid to speak forthrightly here.
Thanks for this awakening breath of fresh air!
Garth
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02-07-2007, 07:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grethe Angen
I think not only in the US.I believe it is rather a rare phenomenon that highly profiled persons just accept to be rendered almost like zombies.
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Actually my first thought was "Dawn of the Dead." They look like something one might see on a B-grade horror movie poster.
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Originally Posted by Garth Herrick
People are afraid to speak forthrightly here.
Garth
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If I may be so bold....whatever merit lies in the way the figures are rendered (if there is any) - the paint handling itself, - it is completely undercut and invalidated by the random, abstract marks that fill the background; mark-making that, to me, seems arbitrary, self-indulgent, lazy, signifying nothing....it's as if the painting wants to be representational and abstract at the same time, causing it to fail on both counts. And I'm not judging this from some kind of reactionary, anti-modernist, classical realist perspective: I would much prefer to see an entirely abstract painting by this artist - it would, no doubt, be more intriguing, (more consistent at least). And, conversely, if this artist were to really explore how this particular mark-making can render form - a worthwhile endeavor. But, as they are - speaking forthrightly - I find these paintings really....lame. And the fact that they are official portraits of royalty....well...
Is it just me...?
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02-12-2007, 09:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grethe Angen
Illaria,
I have a few questions to those who would be interested to discuss it.
Is this an example of an artist that paint portraits, rather than a portrait-artist? Is there at all a difference to those terms?
Grethe
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Very interesting these portraits of the King and Queen of Norway! I really like the first one of the Queen, it's so different.
In reply to your question, I just placed a reply to an other topic on British portraiture last week, where I touch the same subject. I will copy paste it here:
"Kinstler said he is not a portrait painter but an artist who paints portraits, I find that very inspiring. That is the difference between a craftsman and an artist. A craftsman mostly gets his craftsmanship from studying old techniques and looks back and learns from what others before him have done. An artist I think, also looks at what others do and have done before him, but then feels free to do something totally different or takes only fragments of this information for his own use. Is there maybe a parallel if you look at the American portrait artists and the British/European portrait artists?"
For the whole thread see:
Britisch portraiture
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02-12-2007, 11:19 AM
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Scott, enjoy your garlic, its healthy.
thanks ,Bianca I have been so busy in this thread.
Haven't had time to read through the thread about British portraiture but will do now, sounds interesting.
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