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View Poll Results: Do you like this portrait of Queen Elizabeth by Lucian Freud?
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Old 06-18-2002, 08:39 PM   #11
Peter Garrett Peter Garrett is offline
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Jim, and Peter J:

"(to) beg the question" (Oxford English Dictionary)-"assume truth of the matter in dispute".

In this case, to assume, perhaps, that figurative, traditional "realist" Western approaches to art are "good" and that "good drawing" is part of that...

I would argue that "good drawing' is also about the quality of marks, the way the picture is put together (internal consistency, visual logic etc)

Is a native American totem pole "good art". Depends on the totem pole, maybe, that we happen to look at- but you get the drift...

Peter J: absolutely! Like whatever you like!

This has been a worthwhile thread, I think. For instance, I never would have seen those early Picassos if I hadn't been challenged by all this argument about Freud.

The "primitive" question, Jim: just questioning our assumptions about the sophistication of our own art traditions.

Maybe we need a new thread- ?? Gotta go. Thanks for the stimulus, everyone!
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