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Old 06-20-2005, 12:03 AM   #1
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When I want to deliver a recently completed commission that has sunken-in dull areas, I "oil out" those parts of the painting with a 50% linseed/50% OMS mixture, rather than using any type of retouch varnish. That evens out the surface quite well and dries to a nice semi gloss finish.

Virgil, does this seem like a sound practice?
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Old 06-20-2005, 12:59 AM   #2
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When I want to deliver a recently completed commission that has sunken-in dull areas, I "oil out" those parts of the painting with a 50% linseed/50% OMS mixture, rather than using any type of retouch varnish. That evens out the surface quite well and dries to a nice semi gloss finish.

Virgil, does this seem like a sound practice?
Michele,

Maybe. It depends on how much you leave on the surface, and on the percentage of oil there is in the paint making up the painting. If everything is right, the oiling-out oil will soon be absorbed into the paint layer, and become part of it. The painting should still be varnished after it has cured for six months to one year. If there are any heavy passages or impasto, one year would be better. I assume you always arrange to get the painting back for varnishing at the appropriate time. I make sure my portrait clients understand the importance of a final varnish, and agree to let me have the painting back a year after I've delivered it.

When oiling out, it's very important to wipe as much of the oil off as will come off, with a soft cloth, immediately after the oil is applied. Enough will remain on the surface of the painting to accomplish the purpose.

I hope that helps.

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Old 06-20-2005, 09:21 AM   #3
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Old 06-21-2005, 05:05 AM   #4
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What about the Amber medium? - and Amber Varnish.?

I did believe that amber was not a resin. Is this true.?

I certainly like using it.
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Old 06-21-2005, 05:33 AM   #5
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I would also be interested in your opinion on amber medium and varnish Virgil. I guess Tricia is referring to the Blockx product, a very expensive darkish liquid packaged in a slender glass tube sealed with a cork and red sealing wax. It's a joy to get open.

One part amber medium is mixed with 5 parts cold pressed linseed oil. Very little of the amber is needed.

Unfortunately I was unable to experiment fully with this medium being allergic to solvents, but I know a few artists who swear by it.
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Old 06-21-2005, 10:32 AM   #6
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There are other mediums out there called amber mediums, which may or may not actually contain any amber resin, so unless I were to know which amber medium you're talking about, I can only make general comments. These all contain resin or balsam (coniferous tree sap), cooked oil and solvent. With Blockx, the oil is poppy oil and the solvent is spike oil, aka oil of aspic. There is another one by a small manufacturer that has a balsam and cooked oil in it, either walnut or linseed, a solvent (probably turpentine) and maybe some amber or copal resin in it, and there might be a few others out there with who-knows-what in them. The only one of these manufacturers whose word I would trust on what is in a product is Blockx.

Whether lots of people like to use a given medium or not is no indication whatsoever of its archival properties, nor is the apparent condition of the paintings in question when they are less than 100 years old. The people whose opinions I place greater credence in regarding these matters are the top museum conservators, who see and restore old oil paintings on a regular basis and are plugged into the international conservation community's information network. In that field, it is widely acknowledged that resins and balsams in old oil paintings are generally problematic, and that the oil paintings that have weathered the centuries best have no detectable resins in the paint layers.

Resins lack flexibility, and that is obviously a factor in the cracking of old paintings. One might or might not get by with a very minor addition of a resinous medium to one's paints, depending on many other factors. With a rigid panel support, the problems of cracking would be greatly reduced over paintings on stretched canvas.

Resins discolor, i.e., turn yellow and, eventually, brown. Bill Whitaker discovered this with his damar varnish. Once a resin has turned dark, it stays dark. It cannot be bleached back to its former appearance the way a yellowed linseed oil paint film can, by exposure to light.

Cooked oils are also looked upon as troublesome compared with unheated oils, as they are pre-oxidized (stand oil being the exception because it is cooked in an oxygen-free container).

Solvents also adversely affect the strength of oil paint films.

The mediums in question are composed of resin (and/or balsam), cooked oil, and solvent. There may or may not be driers added by the manufacturer, usually cooked into the oil, and that is another potentially problematic ingredient in the mixture, according to the best information I have come across in my studies on the subject and from my consultations with conservation experts at the National Gallery in Washington.

The 17th century artists who employed cooked oil mediums and/or cooked oil with balsam or resins only used these mediums for certain special effects in the final stages of the paintings, with most of the work done with paints composed of pigment and linseed oil, uncooked and with no resins or balsams in them. Walnut oil was sometimes used instead, but mostly it is linseed oil. It was not a matter of adding medium to all the paints, the way people love to do today. These paints were mulled to the desired painting consistency from dry pigments and unheated linseed oil, so there was no need to add anything to them. The Old Masters were not painting with modern tube colors.

In the mid-18th century is when painters began using exotic concoctions more extensively in their paints, and it is these paintings that have suffered more severe consequences as they have aged. Sir Joshua Reynolds is the poster boy for bad choices of materials, and it is probably his influence that made these concoctions popular in the first place. Reynolds's paintings are notorious in conservation circles for the many defects they have developed and for being among the most difficult to restore. Whereas the paintings of Rembrandt, a century or more older than Reynolds', have held up much better over the ages, with no resins in them. I think that is significant, and worth serious consideration.

Each painter can decide for himself/herself how important it is that the paintings he or she creates continue to look the way they look when they paint them, and how far into the future this matters. If one cares, it is probably better to leave the resins out of the paint. If one doesn't care about the future, it doesn't matter what one uses.

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Old 06-21-2005, 10:40 AM   #7
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What about the Amber medium? - and Amber Varnish.?

I did believe that amber was not a resin. Is this true.?

I certainly like using it.
Tricia,

Amber is indeed a resin. It is a fossil resin because it is very old. It started out as tree sap.

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Old 06-21-2005, 09:36 PM   #8
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You guys are frightening me. I have been using retouch varnish almost each morning at the beginning of my painting day. It brings the freshness of the painting back to light. It is the only way that I can add new paint to the canvas. Without it, the fresh paint looks different than the paint that I applied the day before. Especially in the shadow areas which dry chalky. Then, I apply a thin layer of painting medium by Falens, which is the medium I use throughout the painting to loosen up my paints after squeezing them from the tubes. After that, I apply a final coat of Damar varnish and have never experienced cloudiness. My work is sold in galleries for the past four years, and I haven't received any phone calls about yellowing.

1- Am I using retouch varnish wrong? If so, how can I work with the chalkiness of a painting when I want to add new paint to the painting and cannot accurately see the values and temperature of chalky paint compared to fresh paint?
2- How long after use does the yellowing of Damar varnish begin?
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Old 06-22-2005, 12:44 AM   #9
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Virgil,

Thanks so much for responding to my email and contributing to my post. Once again, I'm amazed by the effort and care you give to provide us good and useful information. Everybody who reads this post on damar varnish should copy your contribution and save it for reference.

All you folks out there in Oil Painting Land, Virgil really knows his stuff. Pay attention.

In 1973, I was painting without the addition of any painting/glazing medium at all. For a while I used Ralph Mayer's concoction -- stand oil plus damar resin -- but I found it very difficult to use when I wanted to do sensitive high finish detail work.

In my case, I would not have messed with the little painting at all if it had been done by anybody else. Since it was mine, I was none too careful, knowing I could repair any damage I would inflict.

Naturally, acetone cut the damar, as did denatured alcohol. It never occured to me to use mineral spirits to stop the solvent action. Oh well.

I was pretty rough on the painting when I removed the varnish. In spite of being beaten up, the painting actually held up pretty well. Paint is tougher than we expect sometimes.

I recently cleaned another painting, done in 1976 and varnished with damar. In that case, I got the varnish off without too much trouble. I don't know why. It too had appreciably yellowed -- was beginning to take on a golden tone.

Anthony,
I too use damar retouch varnish from time to time. I don't think it contains much damar, for the gloss doesn't last very long. I believe it might be mostly solvent.
You won't notice any yellowing in the final damar varnish for maybe two decades. Remember too that in the past collectors were fond of that yellowing. They called it "gallery tone." I wouldn't worry much about it. Perhaps you can get Virgil to jump in again and give you the authoritive word.

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Old 06-22-2005, 01:23 AM   #10
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Virgil,

Thanks so much for responding to my email and contributing to my post. Once again, I'm amazed by the effort and care you give to provide us good and useful information. Everybody who reads this post on damar varnish should copy your contribution and save it for reference.

All you folks out there in Oil Painting Land, Virgil really knows his stuff. Pay attention.
Bill,

Thanks for the vote of confidence. It seems every time I post here, I'm deluged with questions to answer. Once my book is published, I'll just recommend people buy that and find the answers there. Watson-Guptill has sent me a contract, and is scheduling it for release in April of 2007. Meanwhile, I have a lot of illustrations to do before my deadline, so I need to put more time into that until everything is as good as I can make it.

If you're ever in my neck of the woods, look me up.

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