Say it right

[Steven Sweeney]

. . . not to mention "Say it right [sic]".

[Cynthia Daniel]

I've always heard gee-clay, Enzie.

[Steven Sweeney]

. . . and to head this off, the "g" in giclee is soft, a bit more than the soft English g, more of a "zh". The best part about knowing the pronunciation of the second syllable is that now you'll confidently expound on the expressionist works of Swiss-born Paul Klee, no doubt one of the favorites among members, including closet modernists.

My spell-check software doesn't know "giclee" and suggests that I meant to type "girlie". It may be on to something. That's why I don't go to those mediums with the Ouija boards and Tarot cards. I have enough trouble with mindreaders at home.

[Tom Edgerton]

In my Webster's Collegiate (online) both "a mode of artistic expression or communication" and "a liquid with which pigment is mixed by a painter" are listed as "plural media."

But hey, in your own studiae, you guys can work in or mix with whatever mediums you want.

As regards "hopefully," yeah I know, but I plan to use it that way it anyway. So sue me.

Best to all.

[Leslie Ficcaglia]

What is it about "hopefully" that excites opprobrium? Again, resorting to my trusty Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary (a paper and cardboard copy, alas!) it lists, under "hopefully" "1: in a hopeful manner 2: it is hoped" with the addendum "usage Only the irrationally large amount of critical fire drawn by sense 2 of hopefully requires its particular recognition in a dictionary. Similar use of other adverbs (as interestingly, presumably, fortunately) as sentence modifiers is so commonplace as to excite no notice whatsoever. While it still arouses an occasional objection, hopefully as a sentence modifier has been in use at least since 1932 and is well established as standard."

Gotta love that Webster!

[Steven Sweeney]

Just a misfired joke, Leslie, that hopefully didn't alarm anyone. Having just defended "mediums" on the basis of usage in an evolving language, I meant to juxtapose the pedantic "opprobrium" visited upon the hapless "hopefully." I thought a discourse on adverbial disjuncts would not be read hopefully by most members.

Hey, Tom, taking your cue, I've just discovered that my online Webster's says that the plural is "mediums or media". Where are Funk & Wagnall when you need them? (Or is that, Where is Funk & Wagnall's when you need it?)

[Leslie Ficcaglia]

Okay, now that we've hopefully put that one and its predecessor to bed, what is the take among Italian scholars on the proper pronunciation of our recently-withdrawn senatorial candidate's name, Torricelli? The media pronounce it "Torreselli," but I've heard arguments that the "c" should be a "ch," as in "cello." (Wow, got 'em both in!)

[Timothy C. Tyler]

Ok, I say fillet (fill-ah) -framers say (fill-it)

I think both are correct according to the dictionary-what do ya'll say?