Sad news at Mystic... - Page 4

Jimmie Arroyo · 06-08-2005, 06:30 PM

Thanks a bunch!

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If you were whining about the guy's comments I could understand, but you're not.

I shouldn't whine about his comment, I should thank him. I'll take one honest critique over 100 false pats on the back any day. I remember posting something online and received only praises. One person wrote me and said he/she would expect better. It was good to hear.

I'll get over having my feelings hurt, I won't get over producing bad work. And so far, no one's ever hurt my feelings with a critique. The whole thing that happened at Mystic was more of a disappointment of expectation at the time. It was all me, I put no blame on anyone else for what I felt.

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Get a grip and stop with all the modesty before one of us slaps you silly

I would so enjoy getting slapped around by you, Kim. tee-hee-hee.

Hmmmm, I'm sorry if that sounds bad.

Garth Herrick · 06-08-2005, 06:40 PM

Jimmie!

Again, Your drawing is powerful. It won best in show for you, fair and square!

Garth

Kimberly Dow · 06-09-2005, 03:09 AM

Jimmie - his comments weren't a critique, unless you left part of it out. He indicated he was suprised at the judge's choice. What possible benefit did that have towards improving your work?

There are those artists that are sensitive and critiques hurt. Then there are those who aren't happy until they are told they can do better. Balance is the key, in my opinion. Critiques are wonderful a lot of the time. Sometimes they are not. Learning to distinguish which ones apply - and what, if anything, they can do to help you is the key. Do you think this guy's eyes and opinions mean more than your fellow artists here on this forum? Do you think we are all just being nice? I dont think so.

Now smarten up and learn to take the compliments you deserve. Taking compliments graciously is just as important as learning to take critiques.

I can't recall the title a dominatrix has, or I'd sign my name with it.

Jimmie Arroyo · 06-09-2005, 02:27 PM

Okay, I'm going to try to more specific on how this affected me, I don't want people taking things the wrong way.

My disappointment was based on thinking I had won with one piece, then finding out I had won with the other. For over a week, I was excited about winning with my first pastel. I was very surprised to find out it was for a drawing. If I were the judge, I would'nt have chosen the drawing. I do like the drawing, I swear! My paranoia had me believing that people looking at my drawing were thinking "that won!?" No one actually said it, I was just torturing myself.

The president said he liked the drawing, he just implied that he would have chosen something else. He did'nt critique it, I was grateful for his honesty. I don't think it's a matter of people just being nice by giving compliments, but when they told me it was a very nice drawing, they did'nt look sincere.

When I post here, it's great to hear compliments, but I'd also love to hear if there's anything that bothers them about it. That's why I do the WIP postings, to see if anyone picks something up before I finish. Ya know, I understand I can be whiny but my BIGGEST problem is not seeing what everyone else is seeing. I may look at a finished piece and wonder why would someone else like it? Why would someone want this to hang on their wall? I feel funny hanging them on my own wall.

I'm always looking to improve, to add maturity to my work, I can't settle, I simply want to be happy with it. I don't know how to do it.

So I'm sorry if anyone didn't understand my complaining and disappointment. I'm over it and am proud to have won. I'm now telling people that I've won (without guilt).

And again, thanks to everyone who has replied, it has meant a lot to me.

Mike McCarty · 06-09-2005, 03:22 PM

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my BIGGEST problem is not seeing what everyone else is seeing. I may look at a finished piece and wonder why would someone else like it?

Just once I would like to walk into a room and see one of my paintings for the first time, to react to it as an objective observer. We are so emotionally entwined on so many levels that it becomes impossible to even come close to that sort of engagement. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to pick just three in our lifetime, and for ten minutes look without all the emotional filters. Maybe that's to much truth to deal with, I don't know.

Michele Rushworth · 06-09-2005, 06:42 PM

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Just once I would like to walk into a room and see one of my paintings for the first time, to react to it as an objective observer. We are so emotionally entwined on so many levels that it becomes impossible to even come close to that sort of engagement. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to pick just three in our lifetime, and for ten minutes look without all the emotional filters. Maybe that's to much truth to deal with, I don't know.

I don't think there is such a thing as an objective observer when it comes to looking at art. Every viewer brings emotions, memories and associations to every painting they see.

One observer might fall in love with a particular landscape painting because it reminds them of a place from their childhood while the next observer may walk on by without giving that same painting a second thought.

Mike McCarty · 06-09-2005, 06:49 PM

I think what you say is true, but no one else brings the heavy baggage of creation. No one else is so fully invested.

Kimberly Dow · 06-10-2005, 12:30 AM

Jimmie - I am glad you are telling folks you won without guilt - good for you. I wasn't seriously getting after you. Well, maybe a little. We all know how good you are and just want you to realize it as well.

Elizabeth Schott · 06-10-2005, 09:03 AM

Mike that is so true about seeing your paintings in a different light, I am constantly amazed at how fantastic they are until the next day, or I post them here... It must be the "mirror" truth.

Dang Jimmie I am sorry it's not bothering you anymore! I was just going to tell you I would carry this burden for you, just lift it off your shoulders and pass it on to me dear. We can do this easily, put my name on the place card, take the best in show card and art and just ship them to me. I can't bare see you sad, so I think I can handle it!

Alexandra Tyng · 06-11-2005, 02:37 PM

Jimmie,

I have to agree with Terri that these judges were chosen because they were qualified to judge. I have been to, and participated in, many competitions, and I notice that often the quieter, more subtle power get lost or ignored in favor of the bold, obvious power. Not that there's anything wrong with that kind of power, either. It's just that there seems to be a bias towards extroversion and against introversion.

It's a beautiful drawing, by the way. Don't apologize for your prize.

Alex