Danielle - Page 4

Anne Hall · 03-21-2002, 09:10 PM

Copied and pasted from a website I can't return to, as I have too many windows open now. Bill Gates is very smart to have anticipated that there would be a business in electronic rights. Perhaps as these comments suggest Corbis is more concerned with multimedia, music and photography. That would suit me!

"Things have changed a lot since the last revision of the Copyright Act in 1976. When that act took effect in 1978, all finished creative work put in a tangible form is protected by copyright without any formalities. Copyright simply springs into existence when the work is created. A lot of people don

Anne Hall · 03-21-2002, 09:32 PM

This newsletter offers a "Case Study on Copyright Clearance" by the legal counsel for Corbis. It is actually a succinct summary of current copyright law, which would be helpful to anyone interested in a basic overview. Then he discusses implications arising from the increasing interest in using digital use.

For the record, I think Bill Gates was a genius to anticipate the business opportunity. From reading this, I surmise that Corbis is more interested in multimedia, music and photography than fine art. And I think that's good news for us.
http://www.cyberbohemia.com/Pages/Br...ncopyright.htm

Steven Sweeney · 03-21-2002, 09:48 PM

So, anyway, Geri -- you still there?

You're free to use any image you want for practice or copy work -- even Bill Gates' digital images. (You can tear those tags off the mattresses too.) Just be sure that if the image is the subject of copyright (as Bill Gates' would be), you don't try to sell or otherwise benefit financially or commercially from your copy work, without permission of the copyright owner. Even if there isn't a copyright issue, and even if you did actually draw or paint the copy (which gives you copyright in your work), the right/safe thing to do is to always identify the copy as such (usually by signing, for example, "Sweeney, after Rembrandt". (Age before beauty, you understand.)

Copy away, and good luck.

Cynthia Daniel · 03-21-2002, 10:13 PM

Steven, you're always good for lightening things up. Thank you for all your wonderful contributions! And Anne, thank you for researching and getting more complete information.

Lon Haverly · 03-21-2002, 11:06 PM

I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, Anne, and I apologise if I did. I just hear so much bad about Mr. Gates. Most of it is hogwash. I do not think that anyone's rights are going to be impinged by his digital archive. If he does the work to archive art treasures, why should he not get a cut of the use of those digital archives? That won't stop people from getting other sources of copies of the masters to use in their computers.

I always thought that he helped the other manufacturers more than hindered them. If you are the best, you should prosper. It is a contentious matter, I just thought I would stick up for him. Successful free enterprise is always mistaken for evil.

Geri Comicz · 03-22-2002, 07:16 AM

Steven,

Yeah!!! I'm still here. Is Danielle still up there? Gee, think about it. Maybe, just maybe, a copyright on...... "Danielle." Hey Bill, hey Bill!!!

My mistake he's not listening. Oh well, maybe next portrait.

You guys are the greatest!! I'm glad I am here.

Geri

Karin Wells · 03-22-2002, 09:43 AM

Portrait painter Margaret Holland Sargent (now there's a name for a painter!) told an interesting story a couple of years ago at ASOPA's first convention in New York City...

She was hired by Bill Gates to paint his mother. At some point he wished to see her progress on the painting and she offered to "JPG" it to him via computer...

His immediate response was (I'm serious) "What's a JPG?" And she had to explain it to him.....

Here is M. H. Sargent's website where (if curiosity overcomes you) Bill and the portrait of his mother can be seen: http://www.portraitartist.com/sargent/sargent.htm

Somehow "grand plots" seldom ring true with me. The "Bill and Melissa Gates Foundation" has taken on some verrry ambitious projects as an attempt to make the world a better place.

And the concept of Bill gobbling up artwork to hoard just doesn't fit...

Anne, my reaction to what you said was not meant in any way to be a "put down." I've simply heard so many stories about "Big Bad Bill" over the years that I almost automatically react in disbelief. I apologise if I hurt your feelings...

Elizabeth Schott · 09-24-2002, 10:26 PM

I love it too!

Sharon Knettell · 09-30-2002, 02:07 PM

I saw your lovely portrait. You have made a great start! I taught myself to do pastels and am now showing them in Boston.

A TEACH YOURSELF PASTEL PRIMER 101:

A. Get Daniel Greene's tape "Erica", take his workshop if possible (he lives in NY state). Buy or peruse as many books on pastel as you can; libraries are great resources.

B. Buy the most colors you can get your hands on and the finest quality.

C. Do as much work from life as possible in natural light.

D. Try this: take a photo of a simple head in natural light. Seat your subject in the same light next to the photo. Rub your pastel color on a small piece of paper and hold it up to the photo to match the value. Then hold it close to the subject. This is a great aid in learning skintones. Most people don't realize how rich color is, even in a photo, and make their work too pasty.

E. Use Portra portrait color film (Kodak). It has the best skin tones.

F. The value sometimes is more important than what you think the color should be. Kitty Wallis says that when she runs out of a favorite color she is forced to consider a new one. You can get wonderfull surprises that way.

F. Use good paper.

G. Don't answer the door when you're working because (unbeknownst to yourself) you'll look like a chimney sweep.

Geri Comicz · 10-02-2002, 07:07 PM

Elizabeth,

Thank you so much for your reply. I am trying to catch up here. I am going now to view your pieces.

Geri