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Old 07-29-2008, 07:46 PM   #1
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In two weeks I will be doing a photo shoot of FOUR children. Saturday I meet with the clients to discuss setting, personalities of kids, customer preferences, clothing, etc. The children are all from out of town but will be here the day of the photo shoot. So I feel pressured to "get it right" in one photo shoot.

Today I practiced with my favorite two and a half year old, my granddaughter. In an hour I took over fifty shots on my covered front porch on a sunny day at about 11:30 am. I would be extremely happy if I could get shots like these two of four children. I would appreciate, again, any advice from the experts.
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:49 PM   #2
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BTW, I have already started a drawing of pic two and plan to use this for an oil painting, if ever I get the time!!!
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Old 07-30-2008, 12:19 PM   #3
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Saturday I meet with the clients to discuss setting, personalities of kids, customer preferences, clothing, etc.
Another way to say this is: I'm going to meet with the clients to inform them of my preferences for clothing and settings, etc..

This might sound a little harsh, but the more of this you can control the better off you will be. Answer in your own mind what your preferences are then lead them in that direction.

I shudder to think about getting four children in sync. A few things that come to mind are: vary the depth and height of the subjects. And in that regard be careful not to have too narrow of a depth of field - more of a landscape setting. Arrange them so that you have one or two facing into the group in profile. Have an assistant available, preferably not the parent. Discuss with the assistant the type of assistance you will need before hand, and the speed in which you will need it (in and out of the frame quickly). Have as much of this worked out in your mind as you can and work toward at least one good predetermined composition .

When you give these matters up to the parents your asking for trouble. If they are insistant about some pose tell them that you will get to that also.

Once you get all the cats herded - snap a bunch. They will be in constant motion so worry more about their overall position instead of trying to get all to present the perfect expression in unison. It probably won't happen. But you may be able to get each one, apart from what the others may be doing. Work your best plan to death.

Sometimes a couch works well for varying the heights and posittions: the seat cushion, the arm, standing against the back cushion, etc. You may need to drag a couch into your light.

Nice light on the faces above!
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Also, the time of day can be key for little ones. Don't schedule right before their nap time. Get from the parents when they are the freshest, most animated. For most kids this is usually sometime in the morning.
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Old 07-30-2008, 03:23 PM   #5
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Hi Joyce, I too love the light on your beautiful granddaughter! On the first one, when painting, i would tone down that highlight just a bit. i wonder if it really looked as bright as that, sometimes i think the camera blows out the highlights a bit.
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Thanks Mike,
I was hoping to hear from you. I needed your words to remind myself that I set the stage, I am the director. I am writing and writing composition ideas, how to handle objections, what I want to see, etc. Oh, did I mention they are four kids under the age of 8????? YIKES!!!
My goal is to convince the client that they do not want a group portrait but individual portraits of each child which can be hung as a dip tick au deu (sp?). ie same backgrounds on all four so thay can be hung together.

I actually wish I could bring them to my studio, but parents of two families and four kids, just too tight of quarters to get anything accomplished. So I am planning on bring my lighting and backgrounds to take shots indoors if I need to.

Christy,
Don't you love it? She is so beautiful, but then I am her grandmother, of course I think she is beautiful. Yes the photo does blow out highlights. But I can play with the image in photoshop to adjust accordingly. It's the second one I like best and am beginning to do in graphite - it is coming fast, too. Pure joy.
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