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[Holly Snyder]

Hi,

This is a 16" x 20" of my sister. This was difficult, as she wasn't particularly fond of posing while I took pictures of her, so I had to change her expression to add a slight smile. Never again. Anyway, I'd love any critiques, especially in the area of warm/cool modeling..

Thanks again.

Holly

[Marvin Mattelson]

This is your best painting to date. The modeling and edges are very well done. Two suggestions. One, the dark lines at the corner of her mouth need to be lightened and look more subtle. They are too severe and don't enhance her smile. Second, the background to our left is too contrasty. It pulls my eye away from the light on her face.

I'm always happy to see you just painting and not trying to be painterly. Be the best Holly you can be. This is a big step.

[Mary Sparrow]

I'm not qualified to critique anyone, but I just wanted to tell you that I agree with Marvin. This is the best painting I have seen of yours, it is really wonderful!

[Kimberly Dow]

Holly, this is wonderful! The only thing I notice that bothers me is that her forhead is so yellow compared to the rest of her face. Good work!

[Holly Snyder]

Marvin,

I think I figured out that the only way I can ever paint "painterly", such as in the effortless looking paintings by Philip De Laszlo, is to first paint detailed with the goal of understanding how to model the face. It'd be so cool to be able to look at a person and know exactly what to do to create the form (warm/cool, hard/soft edges, important/unimportant areas), instead of experimenting on the canvas. Ultimately, I'd like to be able to paint an area with what would take De Laszlo one stroke, instead of my 30 blended strokes. Thank you for the comments and pointers.

Mary,

Thank you, I'd always appreciate your critiques and input.

Kim,

Good point, thank you!

Holly

[Mike McCarty]

first paint detailed with the goal of understanding how to model the face.

Beautiful painting Holly,

I think I understand your complaint. I find myself somewhere along this same evolutionary ladder. I was always drawn toward the very painterly approach, but, I never had the courage, or self confidence, to touch it and leave it alone.

I wonder, and I have no basis for this other than my own experience and the comments of you and others, if the great "painterly" artists did not take this same evolutionary path. I find more and more that after I have established the form and I am confident with my direction, I am then able to create brush strokes and just just let them be. But those strokes are placed on top of a painting that already exists. They are not the first strokes.

It's as if I first had to paint the molecule of the eye, the mouth etc., before I could proceed. I've now moved on to painting a collection of molecules all at once, maybe theres hope. Of course there's always the chance that we may end up exactly where we think we want to be, only to find that we really don't like it there at all, and start working our way back down the ladder (or would it be up the ladder?) If that's true, at least we'll be heading to a place that we understand.

I think it also has a lot to do with becoming attuned to your palette. What I mean is that in any given session there comes a time (not the first 30 min.) when you fully understand where your colors are, exactly what your mixes consist of. I think this facilitates the ability to place that perfect color / value on the canvas and just let it be. For me this indicates that painting only in short bursts of time, instead of longer sessions, can be counterproductive.

[Jim Riley]

I agree with the previous comments and would add that the contrast between hair and background continues across the top of the head and to the upper right without much change. The same good treatment of "edges" that Marvin noted are not evident along this hairline and this tends to flatten the outer hairline. I also would recommend a change to the highlights on the hair. The color on my screen shows them to be too close to the background in color and value and give me the feeling that the background is showing through. I also agree that you did a very good job on this painting.

The "painterly" techniques question could take us a long way from this critiques thread but briefly I will note that much of the successful "painterly" work we admire comes from artists who thoroughly know the craft and most of the critical elements of a good painting and they are no less necessary in this style. It's easy to find careless and sloppy work but the best work takes no less time and effort than conventional realism.

[Holly Snyder]

Hi Mike,

In a new book out about Philip de Laszlo entitled "A Brush with Grandeur", they showed several of his early works, including a self-portrait. I don't have the book anymore, but in my opinion his first works were more modeled and tighter, with shorter, blended strokes. They didn't have the beautiful loose, confident brushwork of his later portraits. Also the coloring of his early self-portrait was bland compared to the rich color of his later work. So I do think he (as one example of a master painter) evolved into his looser style after learning the human form in color and what works in a painting and what doesn't.

I also agree that it's much easier to know your palette. I'm still largely experimenting with different colors, however. Something David Leffel said in one of his videos really hit home for me recently. He said that (paraphased) it didn't matter if you match the exact color on a photo or model. You may not be able to get that exact color from your palette. Just use the colors on your palette to depict the topography of the subject, (values and edges) and it will always look like the person.

Jim,

Thank you for pointing the background and hair treatment out. I also think that when one learns the craft and critical elements, they can be confident and fast in their paintings. Again with Philip de Laszlo (sorry I'm not too versed on other artists), they said he was much more prolific than Sargent, and painted something like 3000 portraits in his lifetime!

Cheers,

Holly

[Chris Saper]

Holly,

This is lovely!

I have very little to add to the comments already made - I would probably desaturate the yellows in the forehead a little. I think you have painted the subleties of temperature very well.

The only other thing is a Peggy Baumgaertner tip, regarding the blue of her eyes. When the iris color is painted mainly with blue ( like Ultramarine) pigment, the iris can seem to 'float' in front of the picture plane that contains the whites of the eyes. Peggy uses mainly Ivory black plus a little white ( which still is a cool bluish color) to create the feel of a blue eye.

I try to cut the saturation of light eyes as much as possible without losing the sense of their color, and leave the highest saturation and darkest value right underneath the highlight.

That being said, this portrait is ready for a frame, a nail and a hammer! Great job.

[Holly Snyder]

Thank you Chris for the comments and tips.

Regards,

Holly