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Jeremiah White 10-14-2005 12:38 PM

PVA sizing, Rabbit Skin Glue?
 
I want to experiment with different supports but I want to be sure that I'm sealing it correctly. I do have some questions that I figured that you all could answer. I tried looking up the answers in previous threads but the questions were a bit different then what I had in mind.

I've heard conflicting ideas so I wanted your opinions. Which is better for sizing a canvas, hardboard, or thick paper; PVA sizing or Rabbit skin glue?

I think that I have an idea of how to use the RSG from other threads but I was wondering about the PVA sizing. How much do you dilute the PVA sizing? I've read everything from 1 part PVA sizing and 1 part water to 1 part PVA sizing to 10 parts water.

How long do you usually let the sizing (both PVA and RSG) dry before applying gesso?

Thank you in advance.

Max Howard 10-17-2005 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremiah White
I want to experiment with different supports but I want to be sure that I'm sealing it correctly. I do have some questions that I figured that you all could answer. I tried looking up the answers in previous threads but the questions were a bit different then what I had in mind.

I've heard conflicting ideas so I wanted your opinions. Which is better for sizing a canvas, hardboard, or thick paper; PVA sizing or Rabbit skin glue?

I think that I have an idea of how to use the RSG from other threads but I was wondering about the PVA sizing. How much do you dilute the PVA sizing? I've read everything from 1 part PVA sizing and 1 part water to 1 part PVA sizing to 10 parts water.

How long do you usually let the sizing (both PVA and RSG) dry before applying gesso?

Thank you in advance.

Here's some differences between RSG and PVA:

RSG shrinks much more in its transformation from a liquid to a solid than does PVA;

RSG when fully cured has a higher adhesive strength than does PVA;

RSG at proper temperatures, due to its lower surface tension will have better absorbtion than PVA;

RSG is more expensive and more difficult to handle than is PVA.

That's just a few things. Your choice should be dictated by specific application. I reccomend RSG for sizing canvas and hardboard. For paper I use geletin as it doesn't shrink nearly as much.

Claudemir Bonfim 10-17-2005 03:17 PM

I prefer RSG.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremiah White
How long do you usually let the sizing (both PVA and RSG) dry before applying gesso?

I wait until it is ready for sanding, usually 8 to 10 hours, I apply two coats of glue before the gesso.


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