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Ludwig Deutsch
Biography
- 1855 born in Vienna, Austria. - 1872-1875 After high school, he entered the Academy of Fine Arts to study Classical painting with Anselm Feuerbach (1875-1877) - 1877 When Feuerbach retired as a teacher, Deutsch and some others students attempted to enter the class of Leopold Carl M |
The Palace Guard (1900-02)
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Signed lower left L. Deutsch
The Palace Guard (1900-02) oil on panel/huile sur panneau 31.25x23.75in. (79.5x60.3cm) In the present painting Deutsch is at the height of his powers. The figure of the guard exudes pride and grandeur and his pose in unyielding and commanding. This same figure appears in another work that bears the same title from 1900, which is currently in the Nadj Collection. A number of Deutsch's favorite props, such as the Indo-Persian helmet and shield as well as the exquisitely embroidered green silk fabric, appear in both compositions. A study for the present painting illustrates the astonishingly exact and detailed planning involved. Deutsch produced many sketches and color studies before moving forward with a composition, and it is apparent that with each stage of planning and execution he aimed for perfection. Deutsch's use of architecture is similar to a stage set, as it utilizes to help reinforce the human figure. In his composition of the palace guard, Deutsch frequently used columns, gateways, exquisitely worked masonry and marbles to accentuate the might and glory of his sitters. Source Christie's Catalog New York April 2006, p. 36 You can find many more paintings and descriptions here If you like me to move a certain work into this thread for further discussion, please send me an Email. |
I'm not a painter, but all I can say is "stunning!"
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Enzie,
Quite an accomplished painting, but I much prefer the original art of the cultures themselves, rather than the European renderings of them. I much prefer the Savahid paintings to this, which, I must say looks like a set piece, like the Alma-Tademas, Bargues and Geromes. The Persians had a very lyrical way of depicting their life and culture with beauty and elegance, which is lost in the over romanticized depiction of the European painters. The art and culture of the East, Asia and Africa had a stunning and revitalizing effect on European art, from the Japonaiserie of Whistler to the Odalisques of Matisse. In the West, academic painting worships at the fountain of form, leaving color and design as second cousins. Add ons as it were. What has been lost is engaging, rhythmic pictorial compositions and jewel-like color. The paintings of these cultures were the inspiration of the painters of the Impressionist period. They showed that art did not have to be about the picture plane, correct rendering, but it could be joyful, lyrical and colorful all on its own. |
Deutsch treat
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I think that Deutsch offers great lessons to all portrait artists. I've had the opportunity of seeing many of his paintings at the auction previews in New York. Reproductions can in no way convey the gem like quality of his compositions nor the sublety of his color.
His color schemes are quite spectacular and the way he handled flesh was first rate. Many would call him a photo realist but they would be mistaken because his paintings recreate illusionistic space and not the intrinsic flatness of photo-realism. I think that his modeling is of the highest level possible and should serve as an inspiration to any portrait artist looking to improve the way they handle form. Those who wish to paint flatly should also study Deutsch and do the exact opposite. Below I've posted the full composition plus a detail from Deutsch's Palace Guard. . |
Cynthia, as I am uploading my collection on my blog believe I just want to crawl into a corner and weep. These paintings are so perfect in every detail rendered that I just keep thinking how will I ever get to that stage?! It's hopeless, yet so inspirational.
Sharon, you post nice Eastern art and when I have a moment I will post soem Iranian paintings other than what you have. It's just interesting to see how different cultures adapt to each other. On that subject have your read My Name is Red by Orhan Pamuk? It talks about Miniaturist that are facing the request for modernization and adaptation to european painting styles. You can read more about a review I did on my blog. Marvin, a true "tour de force" no? I heard the Dahesh has closed it's doors. Have they found a new place? Have you heard anything? |
A Woman From Cairo Ludwig Deutsch
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A Woman from Cairo Study oil on canvas/huile sur toile 25.625x21.25in. (65x54cm) For artist studies such as this one are valuable insights into the artist's approach to a painting. It looks like Deutsch applied paint in short strokes, similar to hatching with a pencil. The light source and play of shadows is recorded in high contrast to each other (see her right hand), very unlike the smooth value gradation we are used to seeing in his final products. This leaves me to believe that this might be a color study. |
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Thomisin, I don't think you're getting what I'm saying. I'm talking about controlling pictorial space.
My point was that in order to model the form (paint something so it has the illusion of three dimensional space) one needs to manipulate the values, edges, contrasts and intensities to bolster that illusion. Hard edges come forward and soft go back. If all the edges are treated similarly, then the painting looks flat not illusionistic. Comparing Deutsch's 3-D effects with the Persian paintings clearly demonstrates the point I was making. The uniformity in intensities (within the same hues), edges and the lack of value gradation makes the Persian paintings lack the feel of pictorial depth. It has nothing whatsoever to do with lovingly placing ones strokes. That is a whole other issue. Everyone who is into painting should be doing that. Why waste your time doing something you aren't passionate about. |
Pictorial space and depth! These are good criteria of what is good and bad about art?
Utter hogwash and nonsense! How can you dismiss the art of the entire cultures of the East with one ill-informed statement! Pictorial depth only has had relevance in the West. It is not an advance, but a point of view. It is only the chauvinism of Western perception and Western arts that sees that pictorial depth or form as entirely superior. Holy rendering, just for the sake of endless and boring rendering. |
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They are perfect in they are as close to a photograph as a human can come. Rendering details like that are simply time consuming, not a great artistic achievement. You could do that if you were willing to put in the time- lot's of it. Why should you weep? Because you can't paint like a dead European. No one can paint like another. It is useless and a waste of time gnashing your teeth over that. I read your blog. I have always been enamored with the elegance and beauty of Persian miniatures. Beautiful painting, like those exquisite miniatures, should not be just a showcase of facile rendering- as in WOW!, those pears look like a photograph. I wish I could paint like that. |
The only one labeling good and bad art is you Sharon.
Cynthia said this site is about portraiture. The beautiful modeling of the heads painted by Deutsch are quite pertinent to contemporary portraiture. I said is that if you understand how to create depth you have the understanding to make things flat as well. The inverse is not necessarily true. Why put Enzie down because of what she admires and aspires to be. I know Enzie personally and I admire her sincerity and I whole heartedly support her in following her dream. The Orientalists were inspired and in awe of an exotic culture that was like nothing they had ever seen before and they interpreted in their own way. They brought a western eye and interpreted eastern motifs. Sharon, you don't like Deutsch. We get it. You made your point. |
I like the decorative, playful aspect of miniature paintings and admire the skill it took to get so much information on usually small pages of a book. This is Iranian Manusrcipt Paintings for you Sharon.
Sharon, there are many styles out there that I find nice, don't understand and try to find the best in them, but non stop me in my tracks as works such as these. It really comes down to what speaks to you as an individual as all our tastes and preferences are so different. Personally, when I see the skill it takes to not only handle the human form with such expertness, but also render clothing and setting in a way that becomes a visual feast of color, design and harmony, I am just in total awe. And if I may so so, I am getting really tired of the photo reference bashing! Deutsch made three trips to Cairo and it is known that he employed photographers, to capture what he saw. He also collected a great amount of props during these trips and once back in Paris would hire models to pose for him. Based on this information, I conclude that he took the photos as reference to recreate the architectural settings and poses. Then he would dress up hired models and recreate the poses and paint from live. After having done numerous sketches to work out his composition, he would use the observed architectural settings in such a way that they emphasized his focal point. I don |
The Answer by Ludwig Deutsch
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signed and dated "L. Deutsch 1883" upper left oil on panel 18 z 11 3/4 in (45.6X 29.8 cm) This painting shows architectural influences from his first trip to Egypt in 1883, Damascus and the Ottoman Empire. This work is a masterpiece in observation and execution. Deutsch painted with a hairline brush to capture every minute detail, weather it is on the body of the men, the garments, props or architectural elements. When compared to a smaller study for this work one can see that Deutsch has given much thought to improve the composion. He added visual interest by changing the pattern of the marble floor tiles from that of a rather heavy, two tone chess board pattern to a lighter diamond shape pattern. This change along with the light pattern on the stairs creates a light infused atmospere in the room. He has taken artisitc liberties with the 17th century Syrian tiles behind the servant. These tiles would have been laid on the floor rather than on the wall. "Ceramic tiles from Iznik, Diyarbakir and Damascus all depict flower scrolls, which are symbols in Islam for intellectual growth and God's continues presence in nature. Although large groupings of such scrolls produced by four, six, or eight tiles were repeated throughout even larger designs, individual tiles were not repeated in purely geometric patterns. The tile grouping, therefore appears to be based on a single tile that might have been in his private collection. Chritistie's Catalog Oct. 2001, P. 24 Ludwig Deutsch had collected many props on his travels and he used the in many of his paintings. Here a 18th Century Turkish tombak ewer and basin on a 19th Century mother of pearl table and a 19th Century indo Persian shield act as props to lighten up and add interest to the corner. The main figure, the Chieftain wears a beautifully Salmon colored Balkan robe, which is greatly embellished with beads. The high contrast of the pale pinks against the dark skin of the figure just make him visually pop out from the muted dark background. Deutsch understood that in order to improve this painting the colors had to be more intense and required greater contrast. |
Enzie,
Thank-you for that beautiful miniature. It takes my breath away. I am sorry if my antipathy for the over-rendered art of the past and present shows through. If he insprires you that is wonderful, he is an accomplished painter. Far better to emulate him than the careless and downright silly art of the late twentieth century. |
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Changing directions from illusionism to flatness reveals high intellectual development on the part of the artist. Take Cezanne, for example: he was a master of painting flat illusions of space. With regards to flat vs. illusionistic painting I again refer to my own particular experience: I find that if I put down a complex pattern of tones as a 2-dimensional image based on what I see in front of me, the illusion of space happens anyway. If I simply enjoy the juxtaposition and relationship of tones and how they resonate against one another my resulting image becomes an illusion of space and form if that is what I am referring to. Once that happens, it is very easy to oscillate between a deliberately flat image and a deliberately illusionistic one without losing the sense of solidity and life. Paintings are essentially about the human mind's response to living in a world of three-dimensionality, not the world itself. Whether the artist orders his impressions in a schematic map of life with each object honoured with its own unhindered space (as in the Persian painting), or whether they are crowded into a clever illusion of space is indicative of the mind of the artist, with its influences and biases. I think that in order to create satisfactory space sketching right onto the canvas, pushing and pulling and experimenting with marks and getting to know the paint is a sound way of speeding up your training. One fortuitous paint mark has more information for the artist than a great many how-to-paint books do. |
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Orange Sellers by Ludwig Deutsch
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This thread is about "Artists of the Past" and in particular about the work of Ludwig Deutsch , his technique and why his style worked and was acknowledged during his time.
Today his paintings go at auction in the hundred thousands of dollars and are highly sought after by people who like his style. In Orange Sellers signed , inscribed and dated 'L. Deutsch Paris 1886' painted in 1886 Oil on panel 20.5 x 16 in (52 x 40.7cm) Like his sumptuous interior scenes, Ludwig Deutsch's renditions of the street life of Cairo were bravura exercises in the detailed rendition of surface textures, artfully composed from the artifacts and sketches he brought back to his studios. However, Deutsch was equally fascinated by the compositional possibilities afforded by everyday encounters between small crowds and a central figure-weather street vendors (fig.1), snake charmers or healers. In the present work Ludwig Deutsch focuses on the two central figures of the orange seller and the buyer. In addition, the piles of oranges painted with a startling saturated, cadmium-based paint immediately succeed in locking the viewer's attention on the picture plane. This daring use of color in 1886 is a precursor to the brightly colored The Palace Guard of 1892. In the Orange Seller, Cairo, the costume of the female figure offering an orange to the standing man is the same dress and head coverings as that of the sitter in The Sahleb Vendor, Cairo, 1886 (fig2.), but here she is seen with her back to the viewer on the right. This repetition of objects and textiles in Deutsch's work is typical and frequent. Often these pieces belonged to the artist and he was able to reuse them in numerous compositions. In addition, Deutsch also collected photographs of exotic objects in his archives and he would draw upon these frequently. A preparatory oil sketch for the present painting titles Marchande d'oranges(fig.3) reveals that compositionally Deutsch experimented with the placement of the baskets of oranges as well as the positioning of the central figure of the orange seller prior to settling on this final composition. Some changes have been made: in Marchande d'oranges both ladies are wearing the traditional veil, whereas in the The Orange Seller the female sitter has removed her veil. This adjustment to the final composition enhances the interaction between the man and the female merchant thereby heightening the human drama. Source: Christie's Orientalist Art 2005 P.16 Larger Image can be viewed here |
You are right Enzie! :oops:
I am glad he is an inspiration to you. We all need them. |
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Thomasin, I think you and are are coming from very different artistic sensibilities. I sincerely do not understand the point you are trying to make. The painting you show (I assume it's a Cezanne) as an example, is it supposed to be spatial or flat? When I talk about illusionistic painting I'm talking about something akin to remarks made about a Rembrandt painting, "It looks like you could pick up the painting by grabbing the nose." Enzie, as you know, I'm so proud of the great progress you are making. Dream the dream! As Michaelangelo said, "The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it." Yogi Berra said, "You got to be careful if you don't know where you're going, because you might not get there." |
Enzie, thanks for posting these. I especially like the informality and beautiful handling of the color in the study painting. Wow!
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You are very welcome. I have uploaded my collection of his work and write ups about some of his paintings and his technique under
Ludwig Deustch Due to size limitations for uploads, it becomes a larger big chore to rezise everything, but I thought I offer a little sampling. |
To all who have posted,
This is one of the most enjoyable I've come across. My compliments to all who have contributed I feel the passion that you have for these works. Enzie, especially thank you as I have seen his work before but didn't know the artist's name. |
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