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Sergio Ostroverhy 03-18-2004 06:11 AM

Group of Paris Firemen, 80"/90", oil/canvas
 
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It was a huge project...
finally it's done.
more pics at: http://www.fireface.com/fireface/gro...ostroverhy.htm

Sergio Ostroverhy 03-18-2004 06:17 AM

Group of Paris Firemen, 80"/90", oil/canvas
 
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more pics at: http://www.fireface.com/fireface/gro...ostroverhy.htm[/QUOTE]

Sergio Ostroverhy 03-18-2004 06:21 AM

Group of Paris Firemen, 80"/90", oil/canvas
 
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more pics at:
http://www.fireface.com/fireface/gro...ostroverhy.htm

Sergio Ostroverhy 03-18-2004 06:24 AM

Group of Paris Firemen, 80"/90", oil/canvas
 
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more pics at:http://www.fireface.com/fireface/gro...ostroverhy.htm

Sergio Ostroverhy 03-18-2004 06:27 AM

Group of Paris Firemen, 80"/90", oil/canvas
 
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Sergio Ostroverhy 03-18-2004 06:29 AM

Group of Paris Firemen, 80"/90", oil/canvas
 
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more pics at:http://www.fireface.com/fireface/gro...ostroverhy.htm

Mary Sparrow 03-18-2004 07:43 AM

Sergio! Thank you SO much for sharing this, I only wish I could see it in person. :thumbsup:

Sergio Ostroverhy 03-18-2004 09:48 AM

Group of Paris Firemen, 80"/90", oil/canvas
 
You're welcome. As You saw I've put some pics about the progression of this painting... in fact I did so much errors and experiences in the beginning, that had to glue a new canvas twice on the whole surface piece per piece to not loose the drawing patterns.

Garth Herrick 03-18-2004 01:35 PM

Sergio,

I am in total awe! Thanks for sharing how you developed this project. One question: Why were you in need of those huge vacuum hoses? Was there an unusually hazardous process to your working methods?

Congratulations on a splendid tribute and acheivement!

Garth

Sergio Ostroverhy 03-18-2004 03:24 PM

Group of Paris Firemen, 80"/90", oil/canvas
 
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Sergio Ostroverhy 03-19-2004 06:35 AM

Thanks for the comment, I have a rose in my garden... so one of the pipeline brings in my art studio its odor, and the other pipeline brings out the nasty dust created by working on the background (the city map) created with polishing machines.[/QUOTE]

Sharon Knettell 03-21-2004 06:41 PM

Formidable!
 
Sergio,

This is so powerful, original and impressive!

I love the smooth David-like contours of the firemen's faces juxtaposed against the gritty, graphic quality of the map.

Sincerely,

Sergio Ostroverhy 03-22-2004 06:41 AM

Group of Paris Firemen, 80"/90", oil/canvas
 
Thank you Sharon,

Indeed the contrast is quite strong... however when you look at it
from a distance it melts in the general ambiance... even creates a
sort of "smoggy effect".

Originally I wanted to create a patchwork of marble imitation. But finally I have put the marble only in the frame... and left the map in a kind of "mini expressionist" treatment (a memory of my "abstract painter" past). More precisely have got involved into the pleasure of just playing with colors and textures in a totally free way.

Also the form relations can be seen as the influence of a painter called Poliakoff (1950-ies) who himself was inspired by Byzantine icons. And the "drop like" painting... may be from Pollock... of course in a very distant way. The Byzantine influence by the way can be seen in the mosaic imitation of the floor.

The "burned like" city map also symbolically creates a contrast by its texture between the idea of "realistic painting" and "abstract painting"... Or a "painting inside of a painting". Include abstractionism and not avoid it.

The role of the "firemen" in this case can be seen as a possible "exit" from that ideological contradiction.

----Action of Saving-----without really thinking why...

----Action of Painting, as a moral action, using all the styles, and
not caring for the aesthetical conventions or barriers between
abstract-realistic-acedemic-conceptual.

Vianna Szabo 03-22-2004 12:51 PM

Sergio, this is a wonderful painting. It goes way beyond mere representation and is truly a work of art. Something about the characters remind me of the Diego Rivera murals at the Detroit Institute of Arts. Congratulations on this strong painting

Linda Nelson 03-22-2004 07:58 PM

Excellent Job Sergio

I like how the two horizontal lines from their outfits tie the men together, and ESPECIALLY that the pump in front looks like a huge human heart - really reminding you how they are lifesavers of us and our community.

Much congratulations!
Linda

Mike McCarty 03-22-2004 08:30 PM

Sergio,

This is quite an accomplishment, my compliments. And you never had to stop to smell the roses, very clever. I don't think you mentioned where this piece will hang.

Chris Saper 03-23-2004 12:32 AM

Wow. I would just love to see this in person. I admire your willingness to think big, literally and figuratively. Congratulations,

Sharon Knettell 03-23-2004 11:05 PM

Aesthics, Conventional or Otherwise.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sergio Ostroverhy
Thank you Sharon,

Indeed the contrast is quite strong... however when you look at it
from a distance it melts in the general ambiance... even creates a
sort of "smoggy effect".

Originally I wanted to create a patchwork of marble imitation. But finally I have put the marble only in the frame... and left the map in a kind of "mini expressionist" treatment (a memory of my "abstract painter" past). More precisely have got involved into the pleasure of just playing with colors and textures in a totally free way.

Also the form relations can be seen as the influence of a painter called Poliakoff (1950-ies) who himself was inspired by Byzantine icons. And the "drop like" painting... may be from Pollock... of course in a very distant way. The Byzantine influence by the way can be seen in the mosaic imitation of the floor.

The "burned like" city map also symbolically creates a contrast by its texture between the idea of "realistic painting" and "abstract painting"... Or a "painting inside of a painting". Include abstractionism and not avoid it.

The role of the "firemen" in this case can be seen as a possible "exit" from that ideological contradiction.

----Action of Saving-----without really thinking why...

----Action of Painting, as a moral action, using all the styles, and
not caring for the aesthetical conventions or barriers between
abstract-realistic-acedemic-conceptual.

I think this is very aesthetically powerful in the tradtition of mythology. Aesthetics are not to be discounted, they are abused today. Most people consider a pleasant landscape, banal still lifes, etc. or other saccharine attempts at picture making as aesthetic.

Beauty in past cultures was used to involve people with the divine. Humanity was pictured as divinities and heroes.

I think your firemen represent very well the heroic elements of humanity. I like that they are simple and direct without artifice.

The design elements are well thought out and not to be dismissed. The firemen present, at least to me a very powerful bulwark against the somewhat ravaged map of Paris.

Sincerely,

Sergio Ostroverhy 03-25-2004 01:08 PM

Group of Paris Firemen, 80"/90", oil/canvas
 
Thank You Mike for the positive comment.
The picture at this moment is in my Parisian art studio, however I
plan to transfer it to Seattle... so am searching now days a cargo for that...

Sergio Ostroverhy 03-25-2004 01:12 PM

Thank You Vianna for the fact that You appreciate this work.
Diego Riviera is certainly a painter whom I like more for his murals
than his political beliefs.

Sergio Ostroverhy 03-25-2004 01:14 PM

Thanks Mary for the comment: I hope You would be able to see it soon in one of the portrait competitions in the States.

Sergio Ostroverhy 03-25-2004 01:19 PM

Hello Linda! The idea of the pump as an allegory of a human heart is really exact, although I never thought about it!

Sergio Ostroverhy 03-25-2004 01:21 PM

Thank you Chris, for the encouragement!

Regardless of its quite "narrative" content, I still think that the picture has for me more of a compact formal (colors, emotions, shapes) effect.

Sergio Ostroverhy 03-25-2004 01:24 PM

Hello Sharon again!

I JUST LOVED the expression "saccharine attempt"...

Do not forget please that under the effect of FIRE
it caramelizes and becomes "academic"!:)

Sharon Knettell 03-25-2004 07:56 PM

60 yards of Tulle and a White Corset
 
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Originally Posted by Sergio Ostroverhy
Hello Sharon again!

I JUST LOVED the expression "saccharine attempt"...

Do not forget please that under the effect of FIRE
it caramelizes and becomes "academic"!:)

My current piece, just coming to completion will probably set your teeth on edge. It will be quite a confection and if you see it, the word saccharine may come to mind.

It is of a white corsetted dancer swathed in 60 yards of white tulle, with an orange wig and sash, surrounded by a cobalt and turquoise chinoiserie background.

Okay!

Good Luck with your wonderful painting!


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