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Gene Snyder 07-18-2002 02:20 PM

Is Painting Dead?
 
Thought I'd share something I found while thumbing through my old daily art journals...

May 4, 1995

Lately this whole Modernist crap has been getting on my nerves. They say painting is dead. I have to disagree. I think they

Lon Haverly 07-18-2002 02:57 PM

Gene,

I agree, but I don't think we will have much of a revolution until we start training people to draw at an early age as they should be. Imagine if every child were skilled at drawing by the time they got out of grade school - we would have an art revolution then! People would know the difference between good and bad art because they knew how to do it!

Michael Fournier 07-18-2002 08:01 PM

Teaching to draw or not
 
Well Lon, I can

Lon Haverly 07-18-2002 09:24 PM

Michael,

In my view, the present lot of professors and art schools are inadequate to train anybody. Few ever became artists by taking a single art class at a school. If, however, we start training all our children in the primary fundamentals of fine art at an early age, they may not even need any "degree" to succeed in art. But I am not even talking about necessarily becoming professional. I am talking about teaching every child to draw, whether they become professional or not. If children have an instinctive ability to draw, as I believe we all do, we owe it to them to help them learn. Let them decide whether they want to make a living at it or not.

Peter Garrett 07-19-2002 05:52 AM

Just a question: what IS good drawing? Is it that obvious?

Marvin Mattelson 07-19-2002 10:22 AM

A Twist on Drawing
 
Good drawing isn't obvious at all. If something's obvious, then I would say it's bad drawing.

Timothy C. Tyler 07-19-2002 02:51 PM

Oh Pooh
 
As the author of Pooh, A. A. Milne said, "some do and some don't."

Peter Garrett 07-20-2002 03:45 AM

OK, I agree, good drawing isn't obvious. So what IS it? How do you decide if it's good drawing? (Or good painting.....and so on).

Lon Haverly 07-21-2002 02:22 PM

If you are a photorealist, that statement would apply, Marvin. I am not an expert on the old masters, but can you tell me which of them was a "photorealist" in their drawing technique? (Oh, I know there were no photos.)

Bad drawing is obvious even to those who do not draw. And if you are of the folks who say there is no good or bad, try teaching a class that way. Your students will know better.

Marvin Mattelson 07-21-2002 09:36 PM

Obvious or Oblivious?
 
I guess trying to be subtle through innuendo didn


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