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Rochelle Brown 01-31-2003 02:33 PM

Depending on the view, it is sometimes possible to paint something you can see looking out one of your windows. It can include a window sill and curtains, or even a small vase on the window sill. Then you don't have to be bewildered by an overdose of the great outdoors.

Just a suggestion.

Timothy C. Tyler 01-31-2003 04:00 PM

Landscapes
 
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Have you ever noticed that people that paint very nice stills or figures or interiors or portraits often paint odd landscapes. The reverse is often true. Artists that make great sunlit landscapes can't even do a portrait. This has gone on for centuries.

Those folks like Richard Schmid and Dan Gerhartz that paint from life-stuff is stuff and all their work is convincing. I love much of Daniel Graves work but find his landscapes a bit weird in tone and lacking in light. If landscapes don't have light or depth they seldom work.

I suspect studio folks don't get outside enough.

Timothy C. Tyler 01-31-2003 04:06 PM

It is said..
 
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by devoted landscape people to paint snow; your feet must be cold. I painted this sketch standing in water for a class demo.

Enzie Shahmiri 01-31-2003 05:17 PM

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I am more of a still life painter than landscape artists. I do have a special fondness for trees though, since I always seem to see a face in them. Odd, huh?!

Elizabeth Schott 01-31-2003 05:35 PM

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Karin, I wish you would post some of your attempts for us new guys. I am dumbfounded that you would struggle. Your struggle would be my masterpiece, and you know I mean that with the utmost respect!

This was my first still life, motivated by Mr. Tim Tyler himself. I was very excited and pleased. The real fun parts were: one the lighting didn

Michael Georges 01-31-2003 06:00 PM

A Good Day Painting Apples
 
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I painted the apples today in a single pass - a very good and exciting day! The rest is still very much in progress. :)

Thanks for looking!

Enzie Shahmiri 01-31-2003 06:39 PM

Michael,

They look so good, you want to bite right into one.

Mike McCarty 01-31-2003 07:36 PM

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Someone should put a stop to this before somebody gets hurt.

Mike McCarty 01-31-2003 08:00 PM

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A pear ently this is going to continue ...

ReNae Stueve 02-01-2003 12:18 AM

It's Still Life for me
 
My first love is still life. I do think of it as portraits of onions.

ReNae Stueve 02-01-2003 12:23 AM

Here is my last one
 
It's a food thing

Elizabeth Schott 02-01-2003 01:58 AM

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Here is one

Elizabeth Schott 02-01-2003 02:02 AM

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Ah, the Master

Michele Rushworth 02-01-2003 11:18 AM

Depending on the compositions they favor, many portrait artists also have to be good at rendering still life objects and landscapes. The objects in the background of Nelson Shanks' portrait of Princess Diana's brother or the landscapes that are part of Allan Banks' portraits come to mind.

Timothy C. Tyler 02-01-2003 11:28 AM

Beth
 
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How did you post such a huge perfect image? That's always been my favorite Renoir.

Here's a still from a guy that is famous for painting women. -Thayer

Elizabeth Schott 02-01-2003 12:10 PM

Oh Tim, I just re-painted the whole thing last night and took a digital of it with my new found photography skills! ;)

I love that still life, can you post one of his women?

Seriously, I have found the most important thing to look for when searching for a painting or artist, is not the artist's name, or the painting's name but the Gallery, Collection or Museum's name. They will consistently have the largest jpg files that you can download without copyright. I am sure you have found if you try and blow up a small one they really look nasty.

Wanted to add, Mike, that I love the pear, and Michael did your delicious apples get thrown from Enzie's tree? ReNae, where are your images?

Timothy C. Tyler 02-01-2003 12:56 PM

National Gallery?
 
Beth I think the National Gallery has several of his works large. Maybe AskArt.com?

ReNae Stueve 02-01-2003 04:37 PM

No seriously
 
How did you post that large image? I've been trying to post a still life, but since it's in landscape orientation the 400 wide format makes it a postage stamp. Reducing the resolution to 79 lost all the detail. I had to dump it.

ReNae Stueve 02-01-2003 05:24 PM

Pastel Still
 
An old pastel. Before I fell in love with oils.

Cynthia Daniel 02-01-2003 10:59 PM

ReNae,

Try not lowering the resolution. What's the web going to do when monitors can display more than 72 and 92 dpi?

ReNae Stueve 02-01-2003 11:43 PM

A one day fun thing
 
I've got 12 citrus trees. All kinds of fruit, so I never run out of still life, life.

Elizabeth Schott 02-01-2003 11:45 PM

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Tim, the Luncheon hangs at the Phillips Collection Museum in DC I believe. To get the really large reproduction I went to: artgazebo.com
Of all places. They sell prints with frames, but they seem to have the best looking reproductions on the web. Another one is the globalgallery.com
If you really enjoy Renoir and the Impressionists, Barnes & Noble Books publishes
"The Impressionists" by Gabriele Crepaldi, which is the best I have seen.

Oh Cynthia you are so right, it is going to be so nasty! I am already an offender of resaving jpegs, thus killing bits of information each time!

ReNae, that is one thing you should make sure you are not doing. Do not open a jpeg file and re-save it with changes as a jpeg file. Each time you do that it loses information. You should save it as a .tiff or .psd, then when you are ready to post on the web, open and save your updated document as a jpeg.

Another thing you might be doing is lowering your resolution and not changing your pixels to the width restriction of 400 at the same time. This is extremely important, especially as I mentioned above. If you save a jpeg as a 72 dpi file then try to make the width larger it is trying to make 2 scrambled eggs out of one. There will be no yellow! Think in little squares that you can take away but not add.

I mean this in the nicest way. Please know I have 5 Macs on a network and have worked on them for years. I strongly suggest, no matter what computer you use, if you don't feel it is your life's calling to become computer literate go buy any of the "For Dummies" books. They are great!

Steven Sweeney 02-03-2003 08:40 AM

Can I play?
 
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Cynthia lit a small fire underneath me, leading to a round-the-clock marathon session of downloading software upgrades and drivers and such for one of my beloved Macs. Suddenly, it appears that I can post images for the first time. This will probably frighten some of you.

So here's a little oil painting, still-life with a branch's worth of landscape thrown in, just to see if this will really show up in this runaway thread without intervention or loud screaming.

Elizabeth Schott 02-03-2003 09:53 AM

Oh my gosh! Is that really a Sweeney Original? Wonderful! :thumbsup:

Michele Rushworth 02-03-2003 11:14 AM

Spectacular! I recognize many of the "tools of the Chinese scholar."

Leslie Ficcaglia 02-03-2003 02:21 PM

What a beautiful painting, Steven, and how nice it is to see your work finally! We've seen your face and "heard" your voice but haven't been able to look at your work and it's felt very odd indeed. Now that you've broken the Mac techno barrier I hope we'll see lots more!

Chris Saper 02-03-2003 08:26 PM

Steven,

This is a lovely painting. I especially appreciate the care that obviously went into setting up the composition.

Steven Sweeney 02-03-2003 08:59 PM

Thanks, folks. This painting has personal significance over and above the fact that I happen to like it, and as happy as I was to cash the check, I wish I still had the painting.

It will perhaps surprise no one that as I look at the image here, I'm ready to critique it, as I can see, all this time later, things that I would still tweak. (Edges and values away from the center of interest, if you're wondering.) Imagine signing off the Forum and shutting down the computer and still having your toughest critic in the room with you. (It's not necessarily a blessing.)

Painted from life, sight-size, with a preliminary charcoal "cartoon" to get everything placed correctly.

Patt Legg 02-04-2003 05:46 AM

;) I have been away for awhile and came and found this thread. Yep ! Thought I'd post one of my still lifes as they are indeed my favorite - after portraits of course.

Carolyn Ortiz 02-04-2003 10:39 AM

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This is really interesting!

Hmmmm, unfortunately I think I am pretty bad at landscapes and still lifes! Unless of course, like some others, they are incorporated into a scene with figures.

The piece I'm working on right now has vegetation, and plenty of glasses, bowls, and other items on a table, and lots of other surfaces everywhere! And the only thing that really keeps me going is knowing that after I get those areas drawn in I have 4 figures to hop around on. Without them I don't think I'd ever complete a piece of art.

This is another piece I did, very minimal still life... Must be a bit of the ADD!

Carolyn Ortiz 02-04-2003 10:41 AM

The actual piece
 
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Can never get enough of the figure! So many wonderful faces, so little time! :sunnysmil

Jean Kelly 02-04-2003 12:35 PM

Still life and landscape
 
I really enjoy seeing the other types of artwork done by members of this forum. Please keep this thread going!

Jean

Karin Wells 02-04-2003 01:05 PM

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Help! There is hardly any room left in my studio. I began my struggle with landscapes once again because I needed something convincing for a portrait background. After I started doing these little studies I've become quite addicted to them and cannot seem to quit.

I think that it is ironic since I was the portrait/still life painter who started this thread because I couldn't do a landscape. And now I'm ready to admit that I need to to find a chapter of "Landscapes Anonymous" near me.

Sometimes I do a couple of these a day just to "loosen up" before I begin work on a portrait. The following pix are a fraction of my first efforts. I've probably painted a hundred of these things so far. Some are good, some aren't.

Patt Legg 02-04-2003 01:18 PM

Yipes Karin--you are definitely on a roll. I love them. Most of them are 8x10's or 12x16's right? Now what does one do with all of these paintings? Where do you have them all? I see most are framed.

Personally, I find that I do the same thing. I get on a roll with miniatures or at least small works for awhile then I bust loose and go to a 30x40 or bigger. Must be the the creativeness going awry. Love it.

Keep it up.

Timothy C. Tyler 02-04-2003 04:18 PM

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This was from my New England trip this fall.

Timothy C. Tyler 02-04-2003 04:22 PM

Life
 
Working from life, whether on portraits or still lifes or landscapes - there's a great deal of color out there. On cloudy days the color is really rich because the sun doesn't bleach out the color. You'll notice R. Schmid almost always paints on cloudy days.

Karin Wells 02-04-2003 09:21 PM

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Most of them are 8x10's or 12x16's right?
Most are 6" x 9" and 8" x 10." Some are 9" x 12" but I like to work small.
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Now what does one do with all of these paintings?
Darned if I know...any suggestions?
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Where do you have them all and I see most are framed?
I just got around to taking pix of the framed ones and that is the tip of the iceberg. These little landscapes are stacked all over the studio and around the house. If I can't break my landscape addiction soon, I'll be forced to move into a warehouse.:) Fortunately I've been able to sell a few through two galleries nearby but they can't sell 'em as fast as I can paint 'em. Too bad ebay isn't good for selling paintings...

Michele Rushworth 02-04-2003 09:24 PM

I'd love to see some of them up close. Can you post a couple of your favorites?

Can you tell me how long it takes you to do one or two of these to loosen up before working on a portrait? (I'd never get around to working on my portraiture if I tried that!)

Thanks!

Steven Sweeney 02-04-2003 09:35 PM

Karin, work up the walls and across the ceiling and open up your studio as a planetarium or IMAX landscape theater. Charge what the market will bear. I'll buy the first ticket. (Remember, the big profits are in the popcorn and the watered-down soft drinks.)

With this kind of work, though, your biggest problem would be getting people to leave after the credits roll. (That and the floors sticky with spilled pop.)

Karin Wells 02-04-2003 10:03 PM

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