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Jeff Fuchs 08-26-2003 06:26 PM

http://www.tfaoi.com/aa/3aa/3aa300.htm

The period at the end of the sentence got included as part of the address.

Lynn T. McCallum 08-26-2003 09:16 PM

Thanks Jeff for that correction. Sorry I messed some folks up out there. Try again.

Timothy C. Tyler 08-26-2003 11:58 PM

Humm, In the article I just read I was struck by a few things that sounded CREATIVE in the writing. I don't remember many folks calling Sargent "manly or masculine" that actually knew him.

The article also said something about "Sargent's uncompromising realism", when most of the criticism about his work said he was "flashy and flattering" to clients. I'm not sure I agree with much in the article.

Lynn T. McCallum 08-27-2003 01:28 AM

Just comparing the apples with the apples! Both artists were absolutely breathtaking in the way they executed their work. I just lean more towards Cecilia's work, she's the sweeter looking apple! Maybe I'm just rooting for the girls. Folks always say,"Art is subjective" and "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".

There are a few more essays posted on that particular site about Cecilia.

BTW, there have been 14 of Cecilia's oil paintings sold on the auction block in the past eight years and a number of watercolors, all these images have remained in the private sector. ;C Sigh! Does anyone have a tissue?

SB Wang 08-30-2003 10:58 AM

Dear Chris,

The website for Zhou Sicong (1939-1986)is
www.chinese-art.com/Contemporary/

Thanks!!!

Timothy C. Tyler 08-30-2003 11:04 AM

Lynn, it's very good work. At least,the few paintings of hers I've been able to find are very nice. Next to Sargent and Zorn she holds up wonderfully, how many artists of any gender can say that?

Lynn T. McCallum 08-30-2003 10:29 PM

Turn of the Century Swedish Babes!
 
Why did you choose to throw a Swedish painter in there that painted 'healthy' girls? Has something been missed here? ;) Is my blonde hair getting in the way of understanding things here!

Yes, Zorn did beautiful portraits and what I think are even better nudes, than portraits! I love all his nudes.

Is it that all three saw things almost in the same light?

Tim, you made a good point and I'm glad you brought up Anders Zorn. He is just another example from that particular era that validates art was at its best right then and there. What happened to make it all change like it has? Where's a time machine when you need one?

Looking at Zorn's nudes makes this middle-aged gal feel a little bit better about herself. :sunnysmil

I still like Cecilia best!

Tom Edgerton 08-31-2003 09:33 AM

There was a book out by the Smithsonian Institution Press, "Cecelia Beaux and the Art of Portraiture," by Tara Leigh Tappert. It may still be available. There are some color plates, but unfortunately, most of it is black and white.

As to the debate, I guess it goes back to which images you pair up for comparison. But safe to say, I think, that on a good day she could give Sargent a run for his money.

Timothy C. Tyler 08-31-2003 10:29 AM

Lynn, these pieces (artists) were really together in the same room. You're right about Zorn.

Lynn T. McCallum 08-31-2003 01:30 PM

Where?
 
When, where, why, how, but we know whose? Where did this happen Tim? When? Why didn't or don't I know about this? Where was I?

Tom, found the book about Cecilia out there but it starts at 85.00;C She did write an auto-biography and an instrutional book on the figure, those I would love to find!


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