PSOA 2005 Judges?

Tony Pro · 03-29-2005, 04:01 PM

I have a question, if anyone knows and can answer....

Who are the judges that determine if you are a "finalist" in the PSOA 2005 competiton? I know that the faculty artists do the final judging, but who does the first round picks?

Tony

Jim Riley · 04-20-2005, 10:16 AM

Tony,

I have often checked your post and note that nobody knows or took the time to respond. In many ways the selection of finalist is more critical than sorting out the ranking of the small handful that have survived. They also decide the special awards and recognition from all the entries. I understand the practicality of two step judging but often wonder how much gets rejected in step one that another set of judges would consider award worthy. Years ago I was rejected from a regional show and shortly after won "Best of Show" with the same painting. Obviously the latter judges were far more competent.

Chris Saper · 04-20-2005, 10:28 PM

Judging seems to be as closely held as the the events of the Conclave.

I think sometimes there may be qualified volunteers who intially judge, but sometimes, it might be the assistant in the front office. There's no way to know what happens, which is why I think it doesn't make sense to get really upset about losing or really cocky about winning. I've had similar situations to what Jim has described.

Frankly I'm with Jim on this. When you win the judges are right. When you don't, well, what could they have been thinking?!

Tony Pro · 04-21-2005, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Riley

Tony,

I have often checked your post and note that nobody knows or took the time to respond. In many ways the selection of finalist is more critical than sorting out the ranking of the small handful that have survived. They also decide the special awards and recognition from all the entries. I understand the practicality of two step judging but often wonder how much gets rejected in step one that another set of judges would consider award worthy. Years ago I was rejected from a regional show and shortly after won "Best of Show" with the same painting. Obviously the latter judges were far more competent.

Jim

This question was answered for me about a half hour after I posted this question. I got a call from Christine Egnoski from the PSA and she was letting me know I was a top 10 finalist in the show, so I asked her who did the inital judging. She said it was the 3 board members of the PSA- Gordon Wetmore, Edward Jonas and
Tom Donahue.

Then the final judging is done by some of the faculty of the show... Burt Silverman, Ray Kinstler and I think Daniel Greene. Maybe Richard Schmid if he is available.

Tony

P..S. I was TOTALLY bowled over that I was selected as a Top 10 finalist. I never thought I would make it that far...

Jim Riley · 04-21-2005, 07:58 AM

Tony,

What a nice way to have your question answered. Congratulations!

And Congratulations Chris for your selection as a Certificate winner.

Chris Saper · 04-21-2005, 09:34 AM

Tony,

I am not one bit surprised, in fact, I had a feeling that you were one of the ten - congrats !(and thanks, Jim)

Chris Saper · 04-21-2005, 11:49 AM

I wanted to clarify my earlier response. I think when you are in a portrait competition, especially the PSA, you would expect the judges to be well qualified.

Likewise, I would expect a group like PleinAir Painters of America to also have qulaified judges. The 'mystery' seems to be most prevalent when a group of diverse work is generally judged as a group - abstract, experimental, landscape portrait, etc.. Honestly I can't image how something like the Artists' Magazine competition contends with 10,000 entries.

Also, Tony, I don't want your important news to get lost here, so I will post a note in the Member News section, hoping you don't mind

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Tony Pro · 04-21-2005, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Saper

Tony,

I am not one bit surprised, in fact, I had a feeling that you were one of the ten - congrats !(and thanks, Jim)

Thanks, Chris... I am really nervous about the whole thing. Never been to a PSA before but I hear it's quite overwhelming.

Looking forward to meeting you and so many of the others on this forum...

Tony

Allan Rahbek · 04-21-2005, 05:35 PM

Congratulations Tony,
you have it in you, you will make it all the way, sooner or later.

Allan

Elizabeth Schott · 04-21-2005, 11:46 PM

Congratulations again Tony, these judges must be good aye!

Just to clarify; the PSA is the Pastel Society of America, the PSOA is the Portrait Society of America. We want you to get ALL your kudos!