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Old 06-09-2003, 04:48 PM   #1
Catherine Muhly Catherine Muhly is offline
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The jury's out




Hi! I could use some help. This is the first pastel I've done since 1984, and I wasn't proud of that one either.

I've heard that pastels reproduce nicely as gicl
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Old 06-09-2003, 04:57 PM   #2
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Here's the picture with the reference.
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Old 06-09-2003, 05:02 PM   #3
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Here's a detail (top).
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Old 06-09-2003, 05:04 PM   #4
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And here's another detail (bottom).
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Old 06-09-2003, 06:08 PM   #5
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Cathleen,

Are you looking for a smooth blended look? The pencils don't seem to blend the way the sticks do.
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Old 06-09-2003, 08:27 PM   #6
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Catherine, I love the way you've handled the cloth of her dress and the way the feet and arms are coming out. Lovely color and texture. Your technique and use of the pastels is fine, in my opinion. My concerns are more subject and model-related. Right now her nose is too sharp, her head seems too pale and the features aren't sufficiently delineated, although I realize that this is a work in progress. But I also keep asking myself what the story of the painting is: why is she there against that background and in that position? Because of the colors you've used for the various components she doesn't really seem to fit into the world you've created for her. Perhaps that's the impression you're looking for, though.
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Old 06-09-2003, 08:46 PM   #7
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I like the drama and mystery of the deeply shaded interior space you have in the original source photo. I would go with that. Nice job on the fabric!
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Old 06-09-2003, 09:27 PM   #8
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Michele and Leslie,

Thanks for your comments! To be honest, I tried to make up a "scene" to put the figure in, and it looks made up, doesn't it? Now, to get to a nice deep, say, velvety background, should I erase or try to scrape off the dumb background or cover it up directly, or then again, start over?

I'm at home with oil and graphite, so I'd know when I made a dud or when I could fix it with those two media; I suspect it'll take a lot of elbow grease to repair this one. Or is this when a soft pastel applied hard comes to the rescue?
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Old 06-09-2003, 09:53 PM   #9
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What you're describing sounds like a waste of time to me. It may also damage the paper. I'd say keep what you've done for reference and start something new. You can do it differently. A new medium takes practice.
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I don't work enough with pastel to know if that background could be covered up. That's one of the reasons I work with oils: it's very forgiving of changes and it takes the same amount of time as working in other mediums. (Oh, and people will pay more for an oil painting!)
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