Portrait Artist Forum    

Go Back   Portrait Artist Forum > Paints, Mediums, Brushes & Grounds
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search


Reply
 
Topic Tools Search this Topic Display Modes
Old 07-25-2004, 08:09 PM   #1
Pat Graham Pat Graham is offline
Juried Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Location: Lakewood, WA
Posts: 22
How to tell if a tube of oil paint is too old?




After a long (15+ years) health imposed break from painting I've been painting again, though with watercolors not oils, for the past 2 years. Since I still have my oil paints from long ago ( they are probably in the 20 year old bracket ) I was wondering if they were still usable and how I would be able to tell. Does anyone have any tips? I'm ready to start practicing with oils again and would like to use them instead of buying a new set if possible at this point.

Pat
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2004, 09:21 PM   #2
Chuck Yokota Chuck Yokota is offline
Juried Member
 
Chuck Yokota's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 216
It seems to me that about the only thing that would make them unusable would be if air got in and the paint cured and hardened. If the paint is in the physical condition that you can use them, then they should be OK to use. After all, the pigments need to be permanent and stable so they will last on the finished painting for years or centuries.
__________________
Chuck Yokota
www.mesart.com/cyokota
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2004, 07:55 AM   #3
Julie Deane Julie Deane is offline
Juried Member
 
Julie Deane's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Location: Gainesville, GA
Posts: 1,298
Old paints

I've used paints that I had around for 25 years. The tubes' outsides were in bad shape, but the paint was fine.
__________________
Julie Deane
www.discerningeyeportraits.com
Member of Merit, Portrait Society of Atlanta
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2004, 12:58 PM   #4
Pat Graham Pat Graham is offline
Juried Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Location: Lakewood, WA
Posts: 22
Thank you, Chuck and Julie. I feel better about using these paints now. When I went to do price checks on oil paints I got a real sticker shock and would hate to have to repurchase a whole new set. Yikes! Having not been in this situation before I didn't have a clue how to tell if the paints were still usable other than if the tube was hard.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2004, 02:02 PM   #5
Steven Sweeney Steven Sweeney is offline
Juried Member
PT 5+ years
 
Steven Sweeney's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Location: Stillwater, MN
Posts: 1,801
One thing to be mindful of is that oxidation through exposure to the atmosphere is not the only catalyst for molecular change in pigments suspended in an oil vehicle. That vegetable oils can turn rancid over time in a closed container is an indication that the substances are not inert.

I have not been able to relocate, but I will continue to search for, some long-ago read remarks about paints "cooking" or curing in the tube over extended periods of time. The product may look about the same and be physically usable, but some of the molecular change that should have gone into creating a strong paint film has already taken place. Metaphorically, it would be akin to putting small pieces of cured concrete into a wet mortar mix. The chemistry has long since taken place in those bits of concrete, which will serve only as filler in the new mix. And just as added water won't "reconstitute" the old concrete, neither will adding oil to cured paint produce a reliably long-lasting product.

I'd use the old paints for practice pieces or lay-ins, and begin putting in a supply of new, fresh paints for works in which you'll want to ensure physical integrity for a long time. In addition to the freshness of the paint, you'll have the advantage of many advances in formulations that have arrived on the scene only fairly recently.
__________________
Steven Sweeney
[email protected]

"You must be present to win."
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2004, 05:07 PM   #6
Claudemir Bonfim Claudemir Bonfim is offline
Juried Member
PT Professional
 
Claudemir Bonfim's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2004
Location: Americana, Brazil
Posts: 1,042
Send a message via MSN to Claudemir Bonfim
smile

Once my sister-in-law gave some old tubes, some of them were still good and the paintings I made with them still didn
__________________
Bonfim
[email protected]
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing this Topic: 2 (0 members and 2 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Topics
Thread Topic Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Which type of oil paint to try? Holly Snyder Paints, Mediums, Brushes & Grounds 13 07-15-2003 12:21 PM
That Old Sinkin' Feeling Clive Fullagar Techniques, Tips, and Tools 14 02-07-2003 12:09 AM
Breaking the rules of painting? Karin Wells Cafe Guerbois Discussions - Moderator: Michele Rushworth 15 12-20-2002 08:49 PM
A No-lead Maroger medium? Karin Wells Paints, Mediums, Brushes & Grounds 38 04-30-2002 11:48 PM

 

Make a Donation



Support the Forum by making a donation or ordering on Amazon through our search or book links..







All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:44 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.