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A painting starts with an artistic vision. I think it is imperative to thoughtfully plan out a painting...
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Well said, Marvin.
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We all admire the wonderful compositions of the master painters of yore. However they never randomly started painting without a plan. I think the greatest problem with using photography is this abuse of the planning stage.
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Again I could not agree more.
I think If I had read this post earlier, my thread "Are we portrait painters or portrait photographers" would have been a little different.
In my post, I sounded as if I did not condone the use of photos at all and that is far from my intention or even my own practice, since I have used photos as reference at some point in a lot of my paintings. But I only take photos after I know exactly what I want, including the pose and lighting. I often start painting from life when I can but I almost always do sketches first. The more complex the painting, the more sketches I do. Marvin, I think you really cover every aspect of taking and using photos for reference and I must say I might have been too hasty with some of my other posts.