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Thank you for your comment and interest, Chris. I used an ordinary sketch pad paper apt for charcoal in the first one (off white) and in the second one it was a W&N medium surface cartridge, also very common but more brilliant in its whiteness.
Thank you also Enzie. Like I said earlier, it is far easier for me to just try and draw someone who is chatting than to tell that person to please stop talking. I have to be very comfortable with someone to request that they stop talking.
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