Juan,
Wow! The millions among the general public and the art aficionados's in sympathy with Modern art as a legitimate segment of fine arts are given comparison with Nazi supporters and the like? I fail to understand who the victims of modern art might be and would suggest that it was strong world wide opinion that thwarted your list of failed tyranny. You not only discount popular sentiment you insist that somehow people are no longer able to appreciate and judge realism. Of all the schools of painting it would seem that representation art requires the least preparation or training to appreciate and understand. Having said that, I also believe that it is far more difficult to decide the merits of any given piece of nonrepresentational artwork and far easier for the less competent to hide as Modern Artist.
You insist that I or someone has told you what you should like and I would like to make it very clear that I DID NOT, nor did I imply that you should like anything. Having respect for other artists and their mode of expression does not require "liking" their work. And, to the best of my knowledge, nobody has called you an "idiot", as has been used in these threads to describe Pollock and his followers. The real start of this thread went from dumping on Freud to the defense of Picasso/Modern Art and not the selling of same. As much as you insist that others should not dictate your likes it would seem that you would like to see modern art undone (it's history and can't be undone someone said) and be more than likely to establish criteria for judging good or bad art then I would suggest. Your list of favorite painters and styles can be as small as you like. Further more I don't represent "established opinion" (if it exists and contains any implications that representation art is not legitimate?).
I must be traveling some special roads. I know modern artist domestic and a few from Austria, Germany, Sweden, and Denmark with studios and galleries in New York and London. Without exception they speak knowingly of past and present painters involved in realism show apparent respect for my efforts. Should I assume that they are clever and careful to not disclose the ongoing efforts to void our efforts.
Peter,
I give!... Why did you go to a contemporary art school for four years and not learn a single thing about representational painting? I worked my way through art school where I attended classes from 9 to 4 and sneaked out 15 minutes early to get to my 4 to 12 job I did this for the last two years and was happy that in doing so I had complete say on where I went to school and that I was able to get schooling at all. Perhaps that is why, in addition to being close to home, I wanted to make sure that the program fit my hopes for the future as an artist. I thought the training available at the Cleveland Institute of Art was more important than other schools even though it did not confer degrees at that time. Have I been misled to think that there are schools still teaching drawing and painting skills?
Vermeer may not have received great recognition in his time and I admit that I was unaware. I hope he did not suffer and starve. At any rate I think everyone should take their chances and do whatever they can to do that new break through realistic painting. I think there are more than a few galleries that would take on a modern day Vermeer, Hals, etc. I would suggest that it would be far more difficult in this day and age of communication and despite the claim that people have lost ability to understand realism, to go unoticed and unappreciated.
And, of course there are huge numbers of people who would only consider realism. Its not taking a big chance. Payoff related to skill seems to be in balance in the cruel art world.
Otherwise, lay down your brushes and find another career if the climate looks so dim.
Sharlene,
You must have started at a very young age to have been painting when I started art school. I too remember our ignorant bless using lead white.
Thanks for you note regarding commercial artist. I was offended when a post on another thread said: "graphic designers are a dime a dozen". Some outstanding watercolorist with eventual recognition in the AWS and others, came out of the studios of American Greeting Card and Mort Solberg is still active a a very successful wildlife artist. I know several regional artist whose training was on the job sign painting. I believe Karin Wells did sign painting in the past.
I am now going to play my yearly round of golf.
Have a good day.
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